Cd vs. Lp

[spotlightkid]

I remember back in the 60's and 70's buying the new Beatles or Stones lp and playing it on the turntable for what 30-40 minutes and found it very enjoyable.But now when i put on a cd and it
reads 78:00 for some reason i just don't think i can sit and listen to a cd all the way thru and most of the time there are tracks i don't like.i think the lp was best the artist knew that he or she could record 10-12 songs and that would be it,now you can put about 20 songs on a cd and i think a lot of the times many tracks are just fiiler.What is your opinion on this?

[Gary]

I agree but I like the 80 minutes.

Why?

I am not convinced that the artist's opinion of what their best work is, is the same as mine! You know?

And it's easy to skip a tune or two. Or program the CD player to skip the tune.

[Sckott]

Girlfriend and I were at a nice restaurant and we noted that although the prices were slightly higher for a meal then...let's say 10 years ago... what they put on your plate was enoromous.

If you look around, a lot of things have ended up this way. Including your fave album. MHO.

[Beagle]

I feel exactly the same way. When I see a CD is longer than 45-50 minutes, I know I'm looking at probably 20-30 minutes of filler or just plain ****. If I see 42-45 minutes, I know I have a chance.

There was an interesting interview with Mitchell Froom in Stereophile a few years ago, and he goes into detail on this. He tries to go for short CD length, advising artists that when they have a set of about 10 great songs, each song they add to "fill out" the CD dilutes the overall quality of the album. What's worse, not only do you get filler songs, but they are way too long. In the days of the LP you were restricted to about 18-20 minutes a side, usually a total of 10 songs on the LP. Now, everybody has to put out a "double album" to fill out a CD, and we all know how many truly great double albums there were, you can probably count them on the fingers of one hand.

Then you get people bitching because the latest Weezer is only like 28 minutes and they feel ripped off. I don't know, but I would rather have a CD like The Replacements "Pleased To Meet Me", 30 minutes of consistently good tunes, than have to wade through 70+ plus minutes of crud to find barely an EP's worth of stuff worth listening to, which seems to be the norm these days.

75 minute capacity is great for original double LP's like "Exile On Main Street" or classical works, or even compilations, but I still find some compilations have too much filler on them.

[JohnnyK]

Originally posted by Sckott
Girlfriend and I were at a nice restaurant and we noted that although the prices were slightly higher for a meal then...let's say 10 years ago... what they put on your plate was enoromous.
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No kidding, whats with the huge size of the portions that resturants serve?? Most resturants serve the equivalent of two, sometimes three, portions of food. No wonder Americans are so over weight. I fear that this will be a big health care problem as we age.

[Beagle]

Originally posted by JohnnyK


No kidding, whats with the huge size of the portions that resturants serve?? Most resturants serve the equivalent of two, sometimes three, portions of food. No wonder Americans are so over weight. I fear that this will be a big health care problem as we age. The worst thing is drive-throughs, people don't even get the benefit of the exercise of walking in and out of the restaurant. They sit in their car, eat, order goods by cellphone instead of going shopping, then they get sick and put a huge burden on the health care system. Smoking is a comparatively minor problem now.

Oh sorry, we're supposed to be talking about CD length.

If CD's had a 40 minute max capacity and cost 40% less, I'd buy more of them. Less taxing on my time and wallet.

[mcow1]

So let me get this straight. This turns into something on eating too much and not getting enough exercise but no one can get up and hit the stop button after the songs ya want to hear are over. I personally like the extra length, I've heard many a song as a bonus track that I liked better than what was on the original album.

[Gary]

Two words, Mcow1: Remote Control :D

And about the eating thing: As a Canadian travelling in the U S(Eastern Seaboard area), I am constantly amazed at the buffets down there. Breakfast. Lunch. Dinner. Lineups to get in. It's all supply / demand / competition... etc. That's why the portions are huge - they want to give you value so you'd come back!

Now I'm not saying that I pass these places by..... I'm just amazed!!! ;) And those donut places will kill ya! Donuts for breakfast (some hotel's version of a contenental or American 'breakfast')? Uggghhhhh...... (sorry for the rant)

BTW I do LOVE travelling down in the USA! So much to see and buy! You never know where a DCC Gold Disc may be hiding!

Has anyone documented obesity with hearing loss?

:rolleyes:

[mcow1]

Yeah, I know remote. But I was just trying to help get 'em some exercise.

[Grant]

My response is easy! Just refer to beagle's first post.:cool: He said it best!

[PsychFan]

Originally posted by Beagle
I don't know, but I would rather have a CD like The Replacements "Pleased To Meet Me", 30 minutes of consistently good tunes, than have to wade through 70+ plus minutes of crud to find barely an EP's worth of stuff worth listening to, which seems to be the norm these days.

Here here. Darn right.

I still like albums that'll fit onto one side of a 90-minute tape. Any more than that, and my attention starts to wander ... Plus there's the whole "dilution" issue that's been mentioned.

Less is more.

[Sckott]

Heheh. I still play my Classic Records 45RPM'ers with a grin on my face. I'm combating remote control dependence! :)

Rush Limbauhgh I think is one of those who you could possibly say obesity contributed hearing loss. He now has ear implants, all from listening to his own vox over his headphones TOO LOUD. (Rush used to be another name on air, playing hippy tunes in the 70's on AM radio)....

Yeah I'm getting a little overwhelmed with the bonus track madness, but occasionally it's nice. I guess you'd have to be specific about artist and title. Seemed to take me 3 nights to finish a Miles Davis reissue of "Milestones", and that was a single disc reissue!

Now, I'm thinking of getting the "....Silent Way" box? woah. My ears are busting a seam!

[Patrick M]

Originally posted by Sckott
Rush Limbauhgh I think is one of those who you could possibly say obesity contributed hearing loss. He now has ear implants, all from listening to his own vox over his headphones TOO LOUD. (Rush used to be another name on air, playing hippy tunes in the 70's on AM radio)....

Uh, what are you talking about? Auto-immune inner ear disease is due to obesity? Or from listening to your own voice too loud? Since when?

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/transcrpits/aied_2.guest.html

Reporter: Do you have any idea why this happened, why this is?

Dr. Weisman: We really don't know what triggers this process. There's obviously a genetic component (but) we have no idea what the genetic component is. This is an active area of investigation right now. We here at Cedars-Sinai and at the House are participating in a very large government-funded trial of medications for this disease, and so your tax dollars are funding our efforts to be able to find out what causes this problem and how to treat it.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/transcrpits/aied_3.guest.html

Reporter: Could the fact that he wears headphones on a daily basis play any role in this?

Dr. Derebery: The hearing loss he has is not a noise induced hearing loss. It's a totally different pattern. It doesn't progress this way. Where the headphones come into play [is that] he has had to use real radio announcer headphones. It has aggravated it a bit. It has become a problem, and it seems to be related to the headphones.

[BradOlson]

One of the times when 70+ minutes is worthwhile is when Reprise twofered Gram Parsons's 2 solo studio albums. Not very often though does this work out.

[Joe Koz]

Does anybody here have a good meatloaf recipe.......

[Grant]

Email Meatloaf?