Exact audio copy Question

[copshop272]

Hi Just recovered from a computer crash......What version of EAC works best on XP....Also do I have to download a lame software from a different site or can I get everything I need directly from EAC........But the way vinyl rules......Im running Rega P3/Dynavector 10X5..............SSSmooth.............M any thanks.....

[Sckott]

EAC will not run on Windows XP until you use the ASPI hack.

Microsoft thought that by making only Windows Media Player the only compatible burning software for music, they had taken care of using a Roxio product under license while keeping CD burning "in the family".

But WMP sucks. So, either higher versions of Roxio and Nero are important. If you haven't installed either product, you need the ASPI hack.

Force ASPI for Windows XP can be found here (http://www.stardeaf.republika.pl/downloads/frcASPI17.zip)

Make sure you open the package up and read the instructions. Then, download and install EAC, the latest version. It will now work on just about any CD burners.

[Claviusb]

To add what Sckott said, also make sure that you also have Service Pack 1 installed-- this is a must! Also, EAC *just* came out with a brand new version a couple of weeks ago. The last update for that was quite a while before.

[copshop272]

hey guys...many thanks...

[misterbozz]

I have had EAC installed on XP and have had no problems; but its a lot slower extracting though I dare say the drive not EAC.

[RetroSmith]

EAC is just very slow extracting no matter what drive you have.

[Sckott]

Hogwash. It dsepends on the settings. If you're using Secure with C2, it WILL be slow on lightning fast drives. It's because it's using 3-5X the power to securely extract the data.

Want fast but possibly inacurate? Set it for burst mode in settings.

[Claviusb]

Setting EAC in burst mode defeats the key advantage of using EAC, which is true fidelity of the digital information stream. Having said that, I've had EAC read discs at 24x speed in Secure mode. It takes just a few minutes to read an entire disc that way, and I know I've got a perfect clone. As Sckott says, you have to enter the correct settings-- for both EAC AND the drive.

BTW, there's a new version of EAC up on their site-- something you can't say too often!

[RetroSmith]

Understood. what i REALLY meant was that th encoding part of EAC is rather slow. I need an extractor/encoder that is significantly faster, but that makes great sounding encodes. Any suggestions?

[John Buchanan]

Sckott,
thanks for the help in getting this program to run well on XP. I like the ability to reverse the tracks also.

[mudbone]

Sckott, Robert, should I uninstall EAC before install the Force ASPI? Then reinstall EAC.

Also, I have Nero. Should I uninstall that as well?

I've had intermitent probs with EAC and I think this will cure those.

mud-

[Claviusb]

Dave, you don't need to uninstall anything. Just don't have those programs running. The programs will access the new Aspi layer once it's installed. Force Aspi comes with a small program caleed Check Aspi, which enables you to confirm that the new layer is installed. I suggest you reboot before you check.

[mudbone]

Originally posted by Claviusb
Dave, you don't need to uninstall anything. Just don't have those programs running. The programs will access the new Aspi layer once it's installed. Force Aspi comes with a small program caleed Check Aspi, which enables you to confirm that the new layer is installed. I suggest you reboot before you check.

Robert, thanks. I have 2 pcs. The laptop is for testing and I installed the Force ASPI software on that just to get a feel for what to expect. The instructions are very clear and it worked without a hitch. The tower is my "good" pc which I don't like to run tests on or "junk" up. I wanted to make sure!

mud-

[MagicAlex]

I have an EAC question myself. How does one set EAC to copy the pre-emphasis bit on older CDs...or is it an auto process?

[MagicAlex]

Originally posted by MagicAlex
I have an EAC question myself. How does one set EAC to copy the pre-emphasis bit on older CDs...or is it an auto process?

I have to assume that no one knows the answer to this question? Thanks!

[Dave]

Originally posted by MagicAlex


I have to assume that no one knows the answer to this question? Thanks!
I wish I could help Magic, but so far everything that I've put in EAC has worked without any changes to my set-up.

[mudbone]

Originally posted by MagicAlex


I have to assume that no one knows the answer to this question? Thanks!

Kev, I missed this post. Did you do a search on pre-emphasis? I recall some talk about this from Holy Zoo as it pertained to MACs but I believe that thread also mentioned how to do this on a PC.

mud-

[Rich Malloy]

I have to assume that no one knows the answer to this question? Thanks!
This is apparently a very tough nut to crack... I've searched all over this forum and found some discussion on the matter, but unfortunately no clearly-stated, universally agreed upon solutions.

I've been fortunate enough to receive a CD-R of the 83 Toshiba-EMI "Abbey Road", which is one of those early Japanese discs with pre-emphasis, and I'd like to make a perfect copy for my daughter using EAC, and so I'm trying to gather info before I start experimenting (not wanting to make too many coasters out of my dwindling cache of Mitsui Gold discs)...

Any assistance would be very greatly appreciated!

[Jason Smith]

You have to manually enter "FLAGS PRE" in the cue sheet for each song.

TRACK 01 AUDIO
FLAGS PRE
TITLE "Speak To Me / Breathe In The Air"
PERFORMER "Pink Floyd"
INDEX 01 00:00:00

[Rich Malloy]

Thanks, Jason. Despite my stated reluctance to risk making a few coasters, I went ahead with the limited info at my disposal... and promptly made a few coasters! ;)

I always rip with EAC, but use the Adaptec software for burning. I could find nothing relating to Pre-Emphasis flags in the Adaptec, so I checked EAC and discovered that it would encode these flags... but only if one specifies in the cue sheet just as you suggest.

So, I have my cue sheet all set up and ready to go with "FLAGS PRE" and select "Write CD-R"... and I get a write error after a few seconds. Twice. I'm not certain what burner came "stock" on my Dell Dimension 4100, but I suspect it isn't supported by EAC. Does that seem the likely reason?

So, if EAC doesn't support my writer, and Adaptec won't add the "Pre-Emphasis" flag (I'm assuming on both counts), am I fairly well screwed in my efforts to make a proper copy of the 83 EMI-Toshiba "Abbey Road" (and any other CD manufactured with pre-emphasis)?

Thanks for any and all help!

{EDIT: I should also note that I haven't yet tried to burn a copy as I usually do with Adaptec, just to see if the flag would be encoded, but only because my reading on this forum seems to suggest that it wouldn't. If I understand correctly, EAC does not maintain the proper flag encoding when extracting data, and thus the flag must be added in after the fact before burning... which, apparently, Adaptec will not do. Is this correct?}

[MagicAlex]

Originally posted by Jason Smith
You have to manually enter "FLAGS PRE" in the cue sheet for each song.

TRACK 01 AUDIO
FLAGS PRE
TITLE "Speak To Me / Breathe In The Air"
PERFORMER "Pink Floyd"
INDEX 01 00:00:00

The winner of the million dollar question!

You are a genius sir! Thanks for diggin' that one up. :thumbsup: :)

[stereoptic]

here's a good EAC forum:
Digital-Inn (http://www.digital-inn.de/showthread.php?threadid=12902)

[Rich Malloy]

Well, it appears that EAC won't support my writer (but maybe there's a newer version that will?)...

Here's a question: what if one has a CD-R copy of a disc with pre-emphasis, but it's not flagged. Can one rip that disc, insert the flags via EAC, and burn a new CD-R that properly flags the pre-emphasis for the CD player?

[MagicAlex]

Originally posted by Rich Malloy
Well, it appears that EAC won't support my writer (but maybe there's a newer version that will?)...

Here's a question: what if one has a CD-R copy of a disc with pre-emphasis, but it's not flagged. Can one rip that disc, insert the flags via EAC, and burn a new CD-R that properly flags the pre-emphasis for the CD player?

Good question Rich!

[JoelDF]

Originally posted by Rich Malloy
Here's a question: what if one has a CD-R copy of a disc with pre-emphasis, but it's not flagged. Can one rip that disc, insert the flags via EAC, and burn a new CD-R that properly flags the pre-emphasis for the CD player?

If the flag is all that's needed for the player to switch pre-emphasis on, then I would think, yes.

The latest version of EAC is V0.95 prebeta 3, last updated this past May 11th.

Joel