Rhino?

[Holy Zoo]

I was reminded of this by Grant in another thread: a month or so back, people were talking about the possible demise of Rhino? Anyone heard anything further on this?

[Dave B]

I hadn't heard anything about this. How could this be? Swallowed up by Warners?

[Holy Zoo]

Hey DaveB!

Here's 'tis, from the Lounge Archive:
http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?&threadid=826&highlight=rhino

p.s. check your private messages! :)

[oops - updated with correct URL]

[RetroSmith]

Yea, that was supposed to be the plan.

Doesnt make sense though. Rhino doesnt OWN much music themselves, their lot in life was expertise and a good name as a reissue arm. The name Rhino on a reissue usually meant decent sound quality. Of course, it used to be STEREO, but thats another story.


Why would they close it, after buying it?

If you fold the Rhino name, you lose half the value of the company. I guess Warners figures that they can still release the same material (since they own it) Rhino would have without the "overhead" of keeping Rhino open. Its a shame.

[vinylrec]

The once "cool" Rhino Handmade Site now looks like the rest of the Rhino site. I'm getting a bad feeling....

http://www.rhinohandmade.com/

[Steve Hoffman]

The old mgm't team at Warner's bought Rhino. The NEW team is not so hot on the idea. So...... :(

[Grant]

[i]Originally posted by mikey5967


Doesnt make sense though. Rhino doesnt OWN much music themselves...


Actually, they own quite a bit. They own the TK and Sugarhill catalog. Now, unless you are into soul, disco and rap music that doesn't seem like much, but those catalogs hold a great deal of musical history.


The name Rhino on a reissue usually meant decent sound quality. Of course, it used to be STEREO, but thats another story.



Yes, it is. I liked the fact than Rhino put out mono mixes.

[JohnT]

Perhaps this would explain the dearth trickle of DVD-A releases from them.

Steve said:
The NEW team is not so hot on the idea.

Does this apply to DVD-A as well? Damn, Steve Case is a young guy. You'd think the Chairman could light a fire under the seats of those guys :eek:.

[David]

All S&P projects still distributed by Ryko ?
Or Steve will change to another distributor ?
Because I think Acoustic Sounds do the best in the distribution at USA.

[Steve Hoffman]

Ryko, David. They are the best in the USA!

[David]

Thanks for your reply, Steve.

When will you release Eva's reissue LP ? Early March ?:)

[Michael]

Rhino...I used to get excited when they released new CD...Now I get SICK! Talk about MILKING the cash cow! I own MANY of their early releases love em all! When the Monomania stared it just didn't stop ! I'm glad they released all the single mixes..but they just did not know when to stop. Oh well maybe the New Association and Turtles will be....

[Grant]

Originally posted by Michael
Rhino...I used to get excited when they released new CD...Now I get SICK! Talk about MILKING the cash cow! I own MANY of their early releases love em all! When the Monomania stared it just didn't stop ! I'm glad they released all the single mixes..but they just did not know when to stop. Oh well maybe the New Association and Turtles will be....

Aw, you guys make it sound like everything Rhino released was mono after a while. Aren't you guys exaggerating just a bit here?

If a company releases 60s and early 70s hit compilations, and they wanted to release mono singles mixes, wouldn't logic tell you that many of the hits may be in mono? And, if there were stereo and mono versions of a given album, and the mono mixes were different, why shouldn't they issue the mono version? What if the mono version sold more than the stereo one, which was many times the case? More people are going to remember the mono album and the way it sounds.

I'm really not trying to reprise the endless debate on stereo/mono here, but instead of just saying Rhino (actually Bill Inglot) has monoitis, or something ridiculous like they hate stereo, why not just realize that Rhino makes product for the masses of music lovers, not just audiophiles? When Rhino was small, they could do whatever they wanted. But, if things don't grow, they die. Rhino had to start marketing to the masses to keepthe revenue going.

Also, Bill Inglot has stated that he feels the mono mixes should come out, because if he didn't do it, he feared the true sound of the hits may never come out again and future generations won't have a true sense of what history really was. They will just hear the different stereo mixes and think that was the way it was. A personal crusade? maybe. but I guess I stand alone with one or three others in this world in agreeing with that philosophy.

Just to let you all know, I do understand your desire for stereo whenever possible. I just don't share your passion for it as deeply, simply because the stereo mixes don't always sound the same as the mono mixes.

I also realize that some of you older members had stereo, and some of you younger guys were only exposed to stereo. Some, like me grew up on fond memories of the 45s and listening to the hits on the radio. So, everyone has a different reality.

Now, back to the vinyl vs. CD debate...:D oops! I mean, Rhino...

[Michael]

Grant,
I said that It was a good thing that Rhino put out the Mono single versions. I just thought they got carried away with it. I too listened to AM radio and played my beloved 45s . I remember getting really excited when I played my new"Stereo" Meet The Beatles, Introducing The Beatles lps on my new "Stereo "record player and was quite excited to hear the music that way in the new "Stereo " format! I love owning both the Mono 45 version and the Stereo version.Then I can have the best of both worlds.

[Grant]

I guess i'm different in that stereo doesn't have the same effect on me. I also don't normally listen to headphones for pleasure. I guess my "Neato! WOW!" fascination with stereo sound was very breif when I was eight years old.

My concern was more with how "hi-fi" something sounded as opposed to how seperated the channels were. I don't equate hi'fi with only stereo sound.

Hey, it's cool we can discuss this issue civily without insults and other hostile remarks. That makes me respect your opinion much more because of it.

[Michael]

Why argue? You are entitled to your opinion,your love of music. No matter what, we both love music,be it Stereo or Mono. We are here in this forum to enjoy and express our musical interests period!
We all can learn from each other.

[Grant]

I heard THAT!:D

Man, I gotta get off this computer and go to bed! Well, maybe i'll check out the other parts of the forum first!;)