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Chris R
07-25-2008, 12:26 PM
It's about time Mr. De Niro gets serious. Those two comedies with Ben Stiller among others recent films were bloody awful.

From The Independent.co.uk

Robert De Niro: 'You talkin' to me? Oh, OK, then...'

It's been painful to watch Robert De Niro's decline from Travis Bickle to starring with a cartoon moose. Time to get serious again, the actor tells Kaleem Aftab – starting with his latest film

Friday, 25 July 2008

Robert De Niro seems to be taking stock of his career, both on screen and off. The 64-year-old is one of the most feted actors in the history of cinema, but even he seems to have realised that filmgoers are weary of watching the mesmerising star of Raging Bull and Taxi Driver going through the motions in lacklustre comedies.

Now, with his reputation in some danger of being lost, he's decided return to more serious work. A wish to set the record straight might also explain why his turn in Barry Levinson's What Just Happened? seems almost autobiographical.

Trying to maintain a career at the top of an industry as transient as the movies is the theme of What Just Happened?. De Niro plays Ben, a movie producer who, in spite of his reputation as a big hitter, knows that his career is on the slide. (Sound familiar?) His latest production, starring Sean Penn, is destined to flop and his next payday is in doubt because Bruce Willis won't shave his beard. Ben's desperately concerned about how he's going to pay his alimony cheques and maintain his Hollywood lifestyle.

One of the main gripes in this Hollywood satire concerns the power actors have in the film industry. Perhaps surprisingly, it's a concern De Niro shares. "Stars have a lot of power because the ultimate question in Hollywood is, 'Who's in it?'" he says. "The second question is who is directing it, or what team is putting it together – the director/producer combination. If they're very, very famous, their decision about whether they do a film or not will decide if the film will go ahead."

De Niro is certainly one of those actors with the clout to get the green light for a picture, but the New Yorker feels that this power can easily be abused. It's this concern that has led him to announce that he doesn't believe actors should follow through on the strike currently mooted by the Screen Actors Guild.

He says: "I don't know if it's time to be doing this, and also all the other trade unions will be affected by the strike. With the economy as it is at this time, it doesn't seem like a great idea. Issues always come and need to be resolved every few years and if we can't make an agreement today, then we should continue to negotiate and when the matter is settled impose the deal retroactively."

He wishes that actors could be more like directors, a fraternity he joined in 1993 when he made A Bronx Tale. "The Directors Guild of America made an agreement by doing their homework and discussing the issues. Directors, because of their occupation, have to be problem-solvers and so it is no surprise to me that they could agree [without going on strike]."

Given that What Just Happened? takes such a dim view of actors, it's worth pointing out that, if it wasn't for De Niro, the film would probably not have been made. It's based on the memoirs of the producer Art Linson, and De Niro read the book because he's cited in it. He enjoys recounting the episode: "I am taking part in a reading of a script and I bring some friends of mine along. I can't remember exactly what project it is, as it's been a while since I read the book. I got input from some people I brought along as I had a feeling it wasn't right, and so I didn't do the movie. He writes about that, but in a funny way. But I'm the one that said to Art Linson, 'You should write a screenplay about your life.' The characters in the film are based on his experiences."

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The return to more serious acting is a signal of intent from De Niro that he's not going to let his reputation go without a fight.

'Righteous Kill' opens on 19 September; 'What Just Happened?' opens on 10 October.

Full article at:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/film-and-tv/features/robert-de-niro-you-talkin-to-me-oh-ok-then-876213.html

johnny33
07-25-2008, 12:41 PM
He is my favorite actor but I think its about 15- 20 years too late. Why do these guys wait until they are 64 to rethink things?

Isnt he starring in another cop movie with Al Pacino?:rolleyes: Like we need another one of those. Talk about a waste of two talents together on screen. At least with Brando in the awhile back it was a great performance by him, Brando and Ed Norton.

James RD
07-25-2008, 03:33 PM
Good for him. Please, no more of those comedies he's done lately.

eddiel
07-25-2008, 03:43 PM
He is my favorite actor but I think its about 15- 20 years too late. Why do these guys wait until they are 64 to rethink things?

Isnt he starring in another cop movie with Al Pacino?:rolleyes: Like we need another one of those. Talk about a waste of two talents together on screen. At least with Brando in the awhile back it was a great performance by him, Brando and Ed Norton.

I'm hoping the Pacino movie will be good. As long as the writing is good...but really someone should have put these two actors together a long time ago.

Eddie

Squealy
07-25-2008, 03:45 PM
Isnt he starring in another cop movie with Al Pacino? Like we need another one of those.

Well, they've only been in two movies together before, and in one they had no scenes together and in the other, they only really had one scene together. So you could say there's some call for it. (Though the movie looks mediocre -- and aren't De Niro and Pacino really too old to be playing active police detectives?)

gd0
07-25-2008, 03:57 PM
Why do these guys wait until they are 64 to rethink things?Why do they make so many bad choices to begin with?

Oh yeah, it's that dumptruck full of cash that backs up into their driveway as they buy into some producer's Bad Idea.

For my money, actors are a dime a dozen... it's good material that's scarce... or more likely, reluctance to take a chance on a fresh idea.

It's writers and directors that craft movies... with a bottomless pit of aspiring prettyface actors – who indeed train and work hard – you can plug any actor into a movie and get results.

Of course, an ignorant mass audience can't see beyond the attractive celebrities they so earnestly identify with... so producers keep grinding the same old sausage.

De Niro?... I expect that guy to get a hit every time he steps up to the plate... what we need are craftier pitchers (creatives).

Squealy
07-25-2008, 04:01 PM
You have to consider that De Niro has aged out of many of the leading man kinds of roles he could have played 20 years ago. It's the same reason you don't see his peers like Dustin Hoffman or Warren Beatty doing much these days. Pacino has managed to keep working but a lot of what he's done lately has been beneath him (or given him too much license to overact) as well.

Dam
07-25-2008, 04:02 PM
Thought he was great in 'Heat' along with Pacino.

Squealy
07-25-2008, 04:07 PM
I think De Niro's look has softened a bit as he's gotten older as well. He doesn't look as tough or mean as he used to, which would make him less effective in those kinds of parts that he was so good at. Not that he couldn't still kick my ***, of course.

Michael
07-25-2008, 08:26 PM
I'll watch Bobby read a grocery list...There isn't one movie I did not totally enjoy with him in it!

variety is the spice of life...:righton:

Michael
07-25-2008, 08:27 PM
I think De Niro's look has softened a bit as he's gotten older as well. He doesn't look as tough or mean as he used to, which would make him less effective in those kinds of parts that he was so good at. Not that he couldn't still kick my ***, of course.

age has nothing to do with meanness.

he'll just give the orders instead of doing all the grunt work.:D

and a gun sees no age....

NIKE SQ 460
07-25-2008, 08:40 PM
Why do they make so many bad choices to begin with?

Oh yeah, it's that dumptruck full of cash that backs up into their driveway as they buy into some producer's Bad Idea.

For my money, actors are a dime a dozen... it's good material that's scarce... or more likely, reluctance to take a chance on a fresh idea.

It's writers and directors that craft movies... with a bottomless pit of aspiring prettyface actors – who indeed train and work hard – you can plug any actor into a movie and get results.

Of course, an ignorant mass audience can't see beyond the attractive celebrities they so earnestly identify with... so producers keep grinding the same old sausage.

De Niro?... I expect that guy to get a hit every time he steps up to the plate... what we need are craftier pitchers (creatives).


damn - your 3000th post was dead on. great job.

i can only always wish deniro the best. of all the great roles he has landed, and there have been many - his role as a loser, self aborbed stepfather in this boys life was just killer. leonardo dicaprio was also flat out sick in his role too. damn, the whole movie rocked.

Beauvoir
07-26-2008, 06:35 AM
damn - your 3000th post was dead on. great job.

i can only always wish deniro the best. of all the great roles he has landed, and there have been many - his role as a loser, self aborbed stepfather in this boys life was just killer. leonardo dicaprio was also flat out sick in his role too. damn, the whole movie rocked.

"I don't like to see the face!"

MilesSmiles
07-26-2008, 06:50 AM
I'll watch Bobby read a grocery list...There isn't one movie I did not totally enjoy with him in it!

variety is the spice of life...:righton:

Add me to his fan list. :righton:

NIKE SQ 460
07-26-2008, 06:58 AM
"I don't like to see the face!"

:laugh:

gd0
07-26-2008, 11:11 AM
damn - your 3000th post was dead on. great job.Hey, thanx.

Jeez, I haven't looked at my post count since I passed 1000.

And even then, I wondered if I might be spending too much time here.

Nahhh... :)

alexpop
07-26-2008, 08:31 PM
[QUOTE=squealy;3650807]I think De Niro's look has softened a bit as he's gotten older as well. He doesn't look as tough or mean as he used to,QUOTE]

Check out the longer- Righteous Kill -trailer on youtube.

He put on weight,short hair. ... one angry son of a gun..looks tough to me:D

masswriter
07-27-2008, 01:35 PM
the Bruce Willis character that refuses to shave his beard is based on Alec Baldwin, who refused to shave his beard for his role in The Edge.

ubsman
07-28-2008, 10:21 PM
What movie is he in where he says you talkin' to me?

deem
07-28-2008, 10:28 PM
What movie is he in where he says you talkin' to me?

Wow.

alexpop
07-28-2008, 11:06 PM
What movie is he in where he says you talkin' to me?


Taxi Driver

magick28
08-01-2008, 02:14 PM
meet the parents is one of the funniest movies ever made,made me laugh so hard i was in tears.Cant wait for rightous kill looks to be a great movie with 2 of the best actors of all time toghter.

alexpop
08-27-2008, 12:26 AM
The Righteous Kill trailer ..De Niro/Pacino (both playing cops)

In the film somebody labels them the new "Lennon & McCartney" :D

somnar
08-27-2008, 08:44 AM
It's about time Mr. De Niro gets serious. Those two comedies with Ben Stiller among others recent films were bloody awful.

Gee, I liked him in the Ben Stiller movies - I think De Niro can be very funny. Also really like "Midnight Run" with he and Charles Grodin.

Of course if I had to pick, I'd take the "Scorcese" De Niro...

Sean Keane
08-27-2008, 08:59 AM
I'm not a movie watcher like a lot of people are, but I think Deniro would be really good replicating the role of Joe Kerns as Mr. Wilson in some film. It doesn't have to be Dennis The Menace.

Robert Deniro has never played an insane fussbudget like this character, but I think he'd be hilarious in the role. :righton: :laugh: