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Dan C
06-08-2008, 05:33 AM
The promos for this look awesome! They've gathered hours of original archival news and NASA film footage and remastered it in true HD for this new documentary. Some of the stuff we've seen before, like the slow motion lift off, but never in this quality.

The first two installments air tonight. I have my DVR set to record them. This is the type of stuff HD was made for! :goodie:

Check out the trailers and some clips here:
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/nasa/video-player/video-player.html?playerId=1550041754&titleId=1573646994

dan c

CusBlues
06-08-2008, 10:40 AM
I'll definently be tuning in.

Rachael Bee
06-08-2008, 11:43 AM
I'll give it a try, merci.

therockman
06-08-2008, 12:00 PM
I'll give it a try, merci.




If its good enough for Rachel, its good enough for me.

Rachael Bee
06-08-2008, 12:05 PM
If its good enough for Rachel, its good enough for me.

Should I notify you if I find displeasure in it? :laugh:

Dan C
06-08-2008, 12:43 PM
Review from MSNBC.

What's interesting is Discovery actually paid to have the historic NASA footage transfered to HD before donating it back to NASA. Really cool. :thumbsup:

dan c


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25011532/

Review
By Robert Z. Pearlman
CollectSpace writer

updated 5:44 p.m. MT, Fri., June. 6, 2008
"Never before seen footage."

Or so claims the advertisements for Discovery Channel's new six-part documentary/tribute to the first 50 years of U.S. space exploration, "When We Left Earth: The NASA Missions." The mini-series will premiere Sunday, June 8 with the first two, one-hour episodes followed by two more installments every Sunday.

But the claim isn't exactly true. Private and public efforts to share and preserve NASA's multimedia archives have led to growing online libraries and unabridged DVDs. And what they have missed has been seen by historians and space history enthusiasts over the course of the past half century. There's no unseen footage, nor are there "secret film vaults," as another of Discovery's ads professes.

A more appropriate tag line would've been: Footage like you've never seen before.

And it is, to what should be the delight to anyone with a passing interest in space flight, let alone historians and enthusiasts. "When We Left Earth" presents the archival footage in new ways, both stylistically and visually, to mostly wonderful results.

Magnificent resolution
In September 2007, Discovery partnered with NASA for the express purpose of celebrating the space agency's 50th anniversary. As the centerpiece of that agreement, Discovery was provided access to NASA's film vaults (the not-so-secret vaults where the original flight film is held in cold storage).

Discovery, at its own expense, remastered the audio and video from all the key on-boards filmed by the astronauts themselves, ultimately converting more than 100 hours of footage into high definition transfers. They then donated that treasure trove of material back to NASA for their own use and to share with future generations of scholars and filmmakers.

Meanwhile, Discovery took their own work and cut "When We Left Earth," the first space exploration documentary to be broadcast in HD (the series simulcasts in standard definition, too).

The results are nothing short of spectacular. Earlier this week, as astronauts Mike Fossum and Ron Garan made the 195th U.S. extravehicular activity outside the space station, they marked the 43rd anniversary of the first U.S. spacewalk by Gemini IV astronaut Edward White. "When We Left Earth's" second episode, "Friends and Rivals" includes the restored and upgraded footage shot of White during that June 3, 1965 EVA. It looks like it was shot by the same cameras used by Fossum and Garan.

Astronauts of all eras have said that their photography did not do justice to the bold colors and stark blackness of space. Now, as some have seen "When We Left Earth," those opinions are changing.

"[It] captures what we see and what we felt and what we experienced, the reality, the vividness, the emotional side of it," said Apollo 16 moonwalker Charlie Duke in reply to collectSPACE.com about the series.

"By making this high definition [transfer] of the films we did and the photographs that we took, it is going to be spectacular. People are going to awed," described Duke.

A stellar cast
Was "When We Left Earth" only a skillfully-edited series of NASA archival video clips, it would be worth watching but what really makes it must-see-(HD)TV are the series of interview segments that are interspersed through each hour.

Set against a backdrop of stars, a parade of astronauts, flight controllers, family members and more comment on the milestone flights on which they flew or were involved. In just the second-hour, 11 historic figures appear, eight being Gemini astronauts (half of the total who flew during the two-seater spacecraft program).

But it isn't just the number that matters, it is the names.

Not that the likes of Duke, Buzz Aldrin or Chris Kraft can be dismissed as the "usual suspects" for such programs (if they are, it is because they are great story tellers) but "When We Left Earth" reaches beyond those seen in prior documentaries.

Flight directors Chris Kraft and Gene Kranz (of "Failure is not an option" fame) is joined by their lesser known peer Glynn Lunney. Marilyn Lovell and Susan Borman, wives of astronauts Jim and Frank, are interviewed. And on the subject of space explorers, the likes of Jim McDivitt and Bill Anders make rare on-camera cameos.

And then there is Neil Armstrong.

Contrary to urban legend, Armstrong is not reclusive. He lectures several times a year and he recently authorized his biography to be published (which is now optioned for a major motion picture). That aside, the number of times he has agreed to a one-on-one media appearance over the 40 years since his moon landing could be counted on one hand.

If a picture is a worth a thousand words, then the words shared by Armstrong, Lovell and others are well matched to the high-definition imagery.

Staying home to Leave Earth
The six episodes of "When We Left Earth" document the United States' crewed space flights over the past five decades. Two hours are devoted to Mercury and Gemini, followed by two covering the Apollo program and its spin offs, Skylab and the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project. The final installments bring us current with the space shuttle and its missions to service the Hubble Space Telescope and assemble the International Space Station.

Narrated by Gary Sinise ("Apollo 13", "Mission to Mars", "CSI: NY"), the tone of the episodes can sometimes lean toward the dramatic, emphasizing the risks rather than how smoothly some of the key mission milestones really were. The series also glides (if not altogether skips) over certain missions, either for the lack of interviewees or the constraints of time. These slight drawbacks, however, are only noticeable if you are already familiar with the history.

Even if you were one of the hundreds of thousands who made the history on screen possible, or have seen every hour of the 'unseen' footage, there are ample reasons to not miss watching Discovery's "When We Left Earth: The NASA Missions" Indeed, you'll find yourself not wanting to leave the TV, let alone the planet.

The Discovery Channel's six-episode miniseries "When We Left Earth" will air in two-episode installments beginning June 8 at 9 p.m. ET (check local listings). The series will also be available in a DVD or Blu-Ray box set.

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darkmatter
06-08-2008, 12:54 PM
Will have to look forward to this being released on Blu-ray

Simon

Rachael Bee
06-08-2008, 02:25 PM
I can't find it scheduled in HD with my guide. I'm recording tonight's SD on Direc 278 to see what it's like.

rburly
06-08-2008, 02:46 PM
I was watching Dirty Jobs earlier today and have watched the annoying countdown, but I'll be watching tonight.

balzac
06-08-2008, 02:49 PM
I only have SD when it comes to TV, but I'll try to catch some of this in SD, and if it's good enough, I'll pick up the Blu-Ray eventually.

I usually have mixed reactions to these space documentaries. I'm either intensely interested, or fall asleep. Hopefully this will strike a good balance between good narration/story telling, good use of the new transfers of archival footage, and the interviews. The intereviews are what often make or break it for me. I like it when we get some interesting stories and anecdotes, rather than too much of the broad sort of philosophical statements where we see someone pondering the whole meaning of life as it relates to space exploration. But that's just me.

I Am The Lolrus
06-08-2008, 08:41 PM
Saw it, was interesting and had lots of nice footage (I'm sure it gets better later on), but my goodness the ADs were unrelenting!

Rachael Bee
06-08-2008, 08:52 PM
.....but my goodness the ADs were unrelenting!

Aye, I've watched that channel before. The Tivo replays is gonna start soon for me.

I wish I had the 5 LMB dish and new reciever sometimes. I'd get 278 in HD then. I'm stille on MPEG2....

balzac
06-08-2008, 09:35 PM
I watched at least 80 or 90 percent of the first part. It was a good overall presentation, paced pretty nicely (commercials aside of course). Right now I'm thinking I probably won't pick this up on Blu-Ray. I'm sure doing HD transfers of all those old films makes the film look as good as they possibly can, but it's not like they were filming that stuff in the 60's on 35mm panavision or whatever. Ironically, the stuff actually shot in space looks better than all of the footage of stuff on the ground. As I said, I'm sure in HD on TV (and as much or morese on Blu-Ray), the old footage will look as good as it possibly can, and better than my SD broadcast.

Maybe the stuff will look better on later footage. I'm wondering how much stuff NASA shot on film as opposed to, say, videotape in the 80's for instance.

One thing that probably didn't help the look of that old footage is that it was likely all cropped to 16x9 for this special. I recall that the relatively recent "In the Shadow of the Moon" documentary which I have on DVD (which I think also used new HD transfers of space footage) showed all of the old footage in 4x3 pillarboxed. I think that one was even released on HD-DVD in the UK.

Back to the new miniseries, it looks like it will be available to buy on the Discovery website on DVD and Blu-Ray prior to it being onsale in stores (and on Amazon, etc.) The Discovery website shows projected July shipping dates (though different between DVD and Blu-Ray), while it's supposedly due from Discover and Image on DVD and Blu-Ray at the end of September.

jblock
06-09-2008, 06:03 AM
Not bad. It's no mean feat to get Armstrong on camera these days. Didn't see any footage that is not available on the Spacecraft Films sets. I wasn't watching in HD, but at least on regular TV, the quality of the Spacecraft Films transfers of archival footage was of better quality.

therockman
06-09-2008, 11:28 AM
Should I notify you if I find displeasure in it? :laugh:



I recorded it on HD and it is great. Not very many commercials, and the quality is great. I love this footage. :edthumbs:

tps
06-09-2008, 12:48 PM
BTW -- have they ever found the missing Apollo 11 moonwalk slow-scan tapes? Now THOSE would be (almost) never seen before versions of those famous images! Like unearthing the lost master tape of Dylan's "Nashville Skyline", only MANY orders of magnitude more significant.

Rachael Bee
06-09-2008, 03:06 PM
I recorded it on HD and it is great. Not very many commercials, and the quality is great. I love this footage. :edthumbs:

I enjoyed it in SD. I zoomed through the commercials with Tivo. The whole thang brought back so many childhood memories when we were glued to the TV watching the space program. I'd forgotten how John Glen almost didn't make it back. Now, I remember watching that on a news special report.

Scott J
06-09-2008, 03:41 PM
I watched it last night in HD, and while most of the footage would not be my first choice to WOW my friends with HD, the presentation was great.

It's mind boggling to think back on what NASA accomplished, with so very little technology, in comparison of today.

I Am The Lolrus
06-09-2008, 04:17 PM
I watched it last night in HD, and while most of the footage would not be my first choice to WOW my friends with HD, the presentation was great.

It's mind boggling to think back on what NASA accomplished, with so very little technology, in comparison of today.
Its mind boggling to think that NASA's entire history (1958-2007) cost 420 billion dollars (adjusted for inflation). 420 billion is LESS than a particularly more costly government expenditure in recent years, and the 0.6% spent a year on NASA is sometimes called too much!!!

Marty Milton
06-10-2008, 09:52 AM
Not bad. It's no mean feat to get Armstrong on camera these days.
I was thinking the very same thing when I was watching this. I recall watching the recent documentary about the Apollo missions to the moon and Neil Armstrong was not even interviewed for that, so it was a pleasant surprise when I saw him in this show.

I am also having problems finding the schedule for the show. I watched the first episode that covered the Mercury and Gemini flights, but the next episode I see scheduled for next Sunday, June 15, covers the Space Station. Does anyone when the episode covering the Apollo missions is scheduled to be aired?

Koptapad
06-10-2008, 10:07 AM
Its mind boggling to think that NASA's entire history (1958-2007) cost 420 billion dollars (adjusted for inflation). 420 billion is LESS than a particularly more costly government expenditure in recent years, and the 0.6% spent a year on NASA is sometimes called too much!!!

Interesting perspective.

daglesj
06-13-2008, 04:42 AM
I saw In the shadow of the Moon at a small art cinema this year. Some of the footage I'd never seen before and it looked stunning on a big screen.

Another thing I kept thinking whist watching it was "I want Alan Bean as my grandad!" What a sweet guy!

By the way have they found that other better definition version of the Apollo11 landing/moonwalk yet? The data tapes were supposedly 'mis-placed' and folks were looking for them.

Marty Milton
06-13-2008, 07:30 AM
I saw In the shadow of the Moon at a small art cinema this year. Some of the footage I'd never seen before and it looked stunning on a big screen.

Another thing I kept thinking whist watching it was "I want Alan Bean as my grandad!" What a sweet guy!

By the way have they found that other better definition version of the Apollo11 landing/moonwalk yet? The data tapes were supposedly 'mis-placed' and folks were looking for them.

I rented this movie several months ago. I was disappointed there were no interviews with Neil Armstrong. I was very pleased to see him in the mini-series.

Hawkman
06-13-2008, 08:01 AM
What's interesting is Discovery actually paid to have the historic NASA footage transfered to HD before donating it back to NASA. Really cool. :thumbsup:



Spacecraft Films (http://www.spacecraftfilms.com/index.asp?PAGEACTION=COMPANY) has been leaving restored, digital copies with the archives for that past 7 years. True, NOT HD but as others have pointed out, what good is HD copies of old films, many of which were done on film stock not much bigger than 8mm on the Mercury days.

Also, not to nitpick since this IS a good series...there are some VERY common mistakes (like using footage from one mission to illustrate another) that the producers of this series have made so far. The most obvious being shots out the window of Gemini spacecraft RE-ENTERING the atmosphere when they are supposed to be IN ORBIT. Look for the beginning of a 'blue trail' as the spacecraft hits the atmosphere.

Some were a little more egregious..like letting the viewer think that Scott Carpenter was 'lost' when he overshot his landing zone. They knew exactly where he was going to come down after he fired his retros. It just took the revovery team a few hours to get there. They even TOLD him that he was going to overshoot on his way down.

And alluding to the idea that most of the Gemini spacewalks were 'failures' and full of problems until Buzz Aldrin made his is just plain false. This must be news to Gemini XI astronaut Dick Gordon who not only got out of the Gemini spacecraft but SAT on the Agena rocket that they were docked to while he worked on it...at over 17,000 M.P.H.! Ride 'em cowboy!

These are just a few of the errors and omissions in what would otherwise be a great series so far.

If you are a space nerd like myself, just get the Spacecraft Films (http://www.spacecraftfilms.com/index.asp) series of DVDs. They are the "be all and end all" of space flight documentation. May I recommend anything from this (http://www.spacecraftfilms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=6) series of DVDs that they put out? I love the X-15 (http://www.spacecraftfilms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=4) set, the Mercury (http://www.spacecraftfilms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=14) set and the Gemini (http://www.spacecraftfilms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=25) set.

Yeah..I'm 'old school' space as you can tell. :righton: