Indiana Jones 5 movie????*

[crimsoncing]

This Am while was looking thru book reviews on the SCI FI channels web site, I looked thru the past weeks news stories and LUCAS said he can see a indy 5. He siad it would be more about Indy's son with Indy in it as much as his father (Sean Connery) was in the last film. Which means Indy would be un a supporting role. Not Star in it. He said he has yet to talk to Steven about it.

My worst fear is upon me.

[EddieVanHalen]

Why and what for does this guy need so much money? Isn't he wealthy already?

[Oatsdad]

Why and what for does this guy need so much money? Isn't he wealthy already?

Why do you assume it's about the money? Heck, Van Halen charges $150 for many of their tickets - shouldn't they charge less because EVH is already wealthy? :confused:

[El Bacho]

Besides, it's more diplomatic to answer that you're open to the possibility of a sequel than to say it's the final chapter. What makes a sequel unlikely is that they would have to bring a lot of different people for the project and find a good script before it's too late. And it took time to create a pretty lousy script for this one. What makes a sequel likely is that the current episode is making loads of money.

[wayneklein]

Lucas has been talking about doing 5 Indy films since the late 80's. Seems now that the film has FINALLY been realized, it's a possibility but based on how long it took to get it together Harrison may have to appear in a walker...

[wayneklein]

Besides, it's more diplomatic to answer that you're open to the possibility of a sequel than to say it's the final chapter. What makes a sequel unlikely is that they would have to bring a lot of different people for the project and find a good script before it's too late. And it took time to create a pretty lousy script for this one. What makes a sequel likely is that the current episode is making loads of money.

Agreed that Indy 4 isn't the best written. Sadly, the script by David Koepp featured elements going all the way back to the "Little Green Men" script that Lucas dreamed up in the early 90's. I believe that the film went through five writers (not including Koepp or Darabont).

[Squealy]

I don't see it. Maybe if they'd cast somebody who's as cool as Harrison Ford, but I don't see the audience having the same relationship with Shia (he was fine in the movie but he's not what I'd call an iconic figure). The ending seemed to nod at this possibility but (to my relief) they pulled the rug out from under it by having Indy grab the hat out of Mutt's hands.

I still think it might have been a better idea to recast Indy a la James Bond and start a whole new series of movies.

[Jack White]

Agreed that Indy 4 isn't the best written. Sadly, the script by David Koepp featured elements going all the way back to the "Little Green Men" script that Lucas dreamed up in the early 90's. I believe that the film went through five writers (not including Koepp or Darabont).

I would like to read the script for Indy 4 that featured Henry Jones, Sr. (Sean Connery).

[Squealy]

I thought it was OK that Connery wasn't in the movie. He would have to have been extremely old (Connery was playing much older than his actual age in Last Crusade) and I don't know that I'd want to see him playing (or indeed being) a frail old man.

[wayneklein]

I would like to read the script for Indy 4 that featured Henry Jones, Sr. (Sean Connery).

Reportedly it's the same script--they just changed the character to the one played by John Hurt.

Now the Darabont script is the one I'd like to read.

[Jack White]

I thought it was OK that Connery wasn't in the movie. He would have to have been extremely old (Connery was playing much older than his actual age in Last Crusade) and I don't know that I'd want to see him playing (or indeed being) a frail old man.

Actually he wasn't. In "Last Crusade", the Professor Henry Jones character (played by Connery) is suppose to be approximately 60 years of age and Connery was 59 at the time.

(How did I calculate that? In "Last Crusade" the opening scenes take place in 1912. The younger Indy played by River Phoenix is approximately 12 - 15 years old in those scenes. That would make the older Indy in the main story that takes place in 1935 approximately 35 - 38 years old. BTW, Ford was 47 at the time. From that time line, I would guess his father to be approximately 60 years old.)

My understanding is that after initally agreeing to appear in "Indy 4", Connery later pulled out of the project for the same reason you cited - he (like Cary Grant) wanted to remembered for his past screen appearances and not as "a frail old man". Also, my understanding is that Connery's role in "Indy 4" was smaller than his role in "Last Crusade". I mentioned my interest in the script with Connery's character because I was wondering if the main plot had been changed when he left the project. (I know the story and script went through many revisions until everyone agreed on it.) I thought the Roswell connection in the opening of the film was good but assumed the main story would then veer to another direction. I was disappointed in the whole 'big-eyed grey alien taking the flying saucer back to his (or her) own dimension' plot.

I understand your point about Connery as a "frail old man", however he and Ford share such a great on-screen chemistry it's a shame they only appeared in one film together.

wayneklein: Reportedly it's the same script--they just changed the character to the one played by John Hurt.

Now the Darabont script is the one I'd like to read.

That's interesting - and disappointing. I can't imagine Connery wanting to appear in this film, as is (i.e. playing the Hurt role). Maybe he pulled out of the project because he didn't like the script.

What is the Darabont script suppose to be about?

[crimsoncing]

Sean Connery did not do the film because HE IS RETIRED!!! He has stated that in a few interviews. He did say he was temped but in the end he is enjoying his life as it is now.

[tommy-thewho]

Based on how much money this is making I'm sure Sequel is on everyone's mind...

Never say never in the movie or record business...

[bartels76]

Sean Connery did not do the film because HE IS RETIRED!!! He has stated that in a few interviews. He did say he was temped but in the end he is enjoying his life as it is now.

Thank god.

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[Squealy]

(How did I calculate that? In "Last Crusade" the opening scenes take place in 1912. The younger Indy played by River Phoenix is approximately 12 - 15 years old in those scenes. That would make the older Indy in the main story that takes place in 1935 approximately 35 - 38 years old. BTW, Ford was 47 at the time. From that time line, I would guess his father to be approximately 60 years old.)
Last Crusade takes place in 1938, not 1935, and the River Phoenix Indy is probably about 14 or 15, so I'd say Indy is 40 or 41 in Last Crusade. And who knows how old Henry Jones was when Indy was born? In any case, Connery may not have been playing "much older" but he seems pretty clearly to be playing a man in his mid to late 60s or even 70s to me, and I recall everyone at the time saying he was playing older than he was (though I suppose this was mainly because he was only 12 years older than Harrison Ford).

Edited to add: I guess according to the TV show Indy was born in 1899, so I'm a year or so off.

[RemarkablyInsincere]

Well, he turned the Star Wars franchise into a trainwreck... why would he do any different with Indiana Jones.

[tiguwagu]

Thank god.

:hide:

Hey, hey,.. get out from underneath that chair. :D

I actually like Connery in that "senior" role.

[Jack White]

Last Crusade takes place in 1938, not 1935, and the River Phoenix Indy is probably about 14 or 15, so I'd say Indy is 40 or 41 in Last Crusade. And who knows how old Henry Jones was when Indy was born? In any case, Connery may not have been playing "much older" but he seems pretty clearly to be playing a man in his mid to late 60s or even 70s to me, and I recall everyone at the time saying he was playing older than he was (though I suppose this was mainly because he was only 12 years older than Harrison Ford).

Edited to add: I guess according to the TV show Indy was born in 1899, so I'm a year or so off.

I stand corrected. I double checked the caption of the seque from young Indy to older Indy in "The Last Crusade" - "Portuguese Coast, 1938". I got it mixed up with "Temple of Doom" which is set in 1935. ("Raiders", by-the-way, is set in 1936). For Indy's given date-of-birth from the back story of the character, 1900 stuck in my mind, but I wasn't certain (I guess the character is a year older). So, my estimate of 12 -15 for the younger Indy (actually 13 years) in "The Last Crusade" and 35-38 for the older Indy wasn't that bad -only one year off for the adult Indy.

To me Henry Jones appears to be age 60 (even 62 at most) not approximately 70, and even allowing Connery's character to be age 65 - five years off my estimate - he wasn't "playing much older than his actual age in Last Crusade".

[Squealy]

Well, even if he were 60 in Last Crusade, which I doubt (was his dad only 21 when Indy was born? Maybe, I guess), he would be 79 in Crystal Skull, which seems a bit old to be part of the adventure to me.

[wayneklein]

Sean Connery did not do the film because HE IS RETIRED!!! He has stated that in a few interviews. He did say he was temped but in the end he is enjoying his life as it is now.

Well not quite. He has expressed a desire to play a Bond villian but he doesn't think it will happen because he indicated that the production company probably won't offer him his going salary.

[crimsoncing]

Well not quite. He has expressed a desire to play a Bond villian but he doesn't think it will happen because he indicated that the production company probably won't offer him his going salary.

The role of Dr Evil was offered to him way back when. Now that would have been fun!!!!

I have been hoping for them to offer the role of a Bond Villian to him. That would be fun but I think the idea of Sean Connery working in a new Bond film would just be too much. He has been drilled into us as THE James Bond but I love the last one. They reboot is perfect!!!!

[El Bacho]

Sean Connery was actually the first choice for the part of Austin and Dr Evil's father that was in the end picked by Michael Caine, which meant Harry Lime took over James Bond.

Dr Evil was something Mike Meyers always planned to do himself. The first Austin Powers was a quite low budget affair.

[pig whisperer]

Harry Lime?

[Squealy]

Caine seemed like better casting as Austin's dad anyway, visually.

[Oatsdad]

Caine seemed like better casting as Austin's dad anyway, visually.

Agreed. Caine feels much more appropriate in every way. Caine exemplified the Swinging 60s, while Connery was a tough guy. Caine was perfect casting as Austin's dad - I literally cannot think of a better choice...