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wayneklein
04-11-2008, 05:06 PM
Well folks the offical website is up for the remake of "The Andromeda Strain". It has a promising cast and looks pretty good (at least from the previews on the website). They've made some major changes to Crichton's original novel and the first film.

Interesting stuff and hopefully they didn't botch it.

http://www.aetv.com/the-andromeda-strain/

Billy Budapest
04-11-2008, 09:52 PM
I just TiVo'ed the original movie a few weeks ago--hadn't seen it in about 15 years.

Dillydipper
04-11-2008, 10:17 PM
Doesn't really hold up as well in the 21st Century, does it? Kinda drags, and it seems to be propped-up by the "gosh-all hemlock" technology.

JohnBeas
04-12-2008, 02:52 AM
"The Andromeda Strain" was one of the first sci-fi movies I ever saw as a kid (I was 8 years old). Kind of freaked me out - I remember the birds eating the dead people and when they cut open a dead guys wrist his blood was like sand.

wayneklein
04-12-2008, 12:17 PM
"The Andromeda Strain" was one of the first sci-fi movies I ever saw as a kid (I was 8 years old). Kind of freaked me out - I remember the birds eating the dead people and when they cut open a dead guys wrist his blood was like sand.

Two most memorable images from the film and scared the bejesus out of me.

As to the pacing of the film, it was typical at the time. It's not that it doesn't hold up but it's an artifact of its era including the use of split screen and the focus on the gosh-darn technology.

Taurus
04-12-2008, 01:09 PM
"gosh-all hemlock" technology:confused:

christopher
04-12-2008, 03:22 PM
anything directed by robert wise is well worth watching. the guy knew his genres.

later, chris

HGN2001
04-12-2008, 03:36 PM
The trailer makes it look like a more intense and gorier version of the original - and I don't think I mean in a good way. The cast looks young and hunky, unlike the more realistic-looking actors of the original, and I'm sure the special effects and CGI stuff will be over-the-top and more horrific.

I've always had a fondness for the original movie, having seen it in the theatre originally, watched it on televised reruns throughout the '70s, bought the VHS tape, the widescreen LaserDisc, and the DVD.

Updated version of old classics usually are not as good. There's a string of things like LOST IN SPACE, THE SHINING, and THE AVENGERS out there that are nowhere near as good as the originals that they intended to better. I'd say one of the rare exceptions has been BATTLESTAR GALACTICA.

Harry

PaulKTF
04-12-2008, 04:33 PM
Is the book any good? I've never read it but it sounds interesting. Never seen the movie either.

christopher
04-12-2008, 08:16 PM
Is the book any good? I've never read it but it sounds interesting. Never seen the movie either.

yes, the book is very good, crition's (sic) first, i think.

check them both out.

later, chris

wayneklein
04-12-2008, 08:46 PM
The trailer makes it look like a more intense and gorier version of the original - and I don't think I mean in a good way. The cast looks young and hunky, unlike the more realistic-looking actors of the original, and I'm sure the special effects and CGI stuff will be over-the-top and more horrific.

I've always had a fondness for the original movie, having seen it in the theatre originally, watched it on televised reruns throughout the '70s, bought the VHS tape, the widescreen LaserDisc, and the DVD.

Updated version of old classics usually are not as good. There's a string of things like LOST IN SPACE, THE SHINING, and THE AVENGERS out there that are nowhere near as good as the originals that they intended to better. I'd say one of the rare exceptions has been BATTLESTAR GALACTICA.

Harry

I always liked the fact that the cast were older and were cast with character actors that weren't big stars (hence the audience would recognize their faces but wouldn't "know" them) adding a level of intensity and reality to it.

wayneklein
04-12-2008, 08:47 PM
yes, the book is very good, crition's (sic) first, i think.

check them both out.

later, chris

Actually Five Patients was his first book under his name. He also had a pen name and wrote thrillers under it one of which was made into a TV movie after "The Andromeda Strain" became a hit. Someof these were published before TAS and FP. Seems he didn't want to "ruin" his name with these genre diversions at the name. That was before he became a big success of course.

8tracks
04-13-2008, 08:56 PM
"The Andromeda Strain" was one of the first sci-fi movies I ever saw as a kid (I was 8 years old). Kind of freaked me out - I remember the birds eating the dead people and when they cut open a dead guys wrist his blood was like sand.

I had a similar experience. First grade in '75/'76, ABC Friday Night movie, my first real sci-fi film, and I was freaked out by a few things. Even though I know many non-kids films in the late 60s/early 70s were rated "G", this one still surprises me.

As I mentioned in another thread, this [1971] film's "true story" claim at its beginning had me believing for a long time that it really happened. (Thanks to the internet I was only suckered into believing Fargo was true for about a day.)

wayneklein
04-15-2008, 08:41 PM
Just read a review of the remake and while it gets props for trying to maintain fidelity to the novel's best parts early one, it also points out that the film strays off into different directions that subtract rather than add to the story.

wayneklein
05-04-2008, 01:21 PM
My one complaint about the original (and reissue)dvd release of the film is that it lacks the promo piece that Michael Crichton did for the film that appeared on TV. It was kind of cool.

Meng
05-05-2008, 11:04 PM
My one complaint about the original (and reissue)dvd release of the film is that it lacks the promo piece that Michael Crichton did for the film that appeared on TV. It was kind of cool.
My complaint is the DVD quality. In serious need of a proper remastering.

wayneklein
05-06-2008, 06:22 PM
My complaint is the DVD quality. In serious need of a proper remastering.

True. A nice Blu-ray...but that will take forever from Universal. The print used for the original DVD also needs to be restored the colors have faded quite a bit.

JohnBeas
05-18-2008, 12:05 PM
I was watching this today and had a question about the original movie. During the scene when they expose the rhesus monkey to the virus the monkey does a great job of "acting" as if its dying. Anyone have any idea how they accomplished this? It sure looked like the monkey was suffocating then died during this scene.

christopher
05-18-2008, 12:14 PM
During the scene when they expose the rhesus monkey to the virus the monkey does a great job of "acting" as if its dying. Anyone have any idea how they accomplished this?

according to robert wise on the DVD commentary track, just enough carbon monoxide dispursed off-camera to knock the poor little bugger out. a very disturbing scene and one that probably couldn't get shot today.

later, chris

JohnBeas
05-18-2008, 02:08 PM
Thanks for the info. I just finished watching the making-of documentary where Robert Wise talks about this shot. I was surprised when he said that the SPCA was on the set during the shooting of this scene - I agree that today it probably wouldn't be allowed to be shot.

wayneklein
05-26-2008, 10:32 AM
A pity that they blew it with the mini-series. Wise's film is still a classic and holds up remarkably well.

Frodis
05-26-2008, 11:23 AM
I saw the movie on TV some 25 years or so ago and every time I shave I think of the opening segment where they go through a "light" shower where the first layer of skin is singed off and brushed away like powder. I keep thinking that this would be so much easier than nicking myself with a razor.

I think remaking this in light of the small pox and influenza scares that we've had recently (plus Avian flu, Lyme disease, etc). It's very timely. I think it's as much on people's minds now as the UFO' stuff was back in the 40's and 50's.

christopher
05-26-2008, 03:11 PM
SF Chronicle review:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/26/DDES10TALN.DTL

later, chris


TV review: 'Andromeda' strains its credibility
Tim Goodman
Monday, May 26, 2008

The Andromeda Strain: Sci-fi movie. 9 p.m. today and Tuesday on A&E.

To be absolutely fair to the Ridley and Tony Scott remake of "The Andromeda Strain," which absorbs four hours and two nights on A&E starting today, the "television event" does its very best to stave off the kind of lunacy that often turns futuristic sci-fi into comedy. But then, just before the credits roll on Night 1, "The Andromeda Strain" comes so completely unwound that you think, "I might have to find something else to do tomorrow instead."

But resist that temptation. Because once you're invested to that point, you might as well stay around for the payoff, which unfolds uproariously on Tuesday as both a "Mystery Science Theater 3000" candidate for mockery and a thoughtfully constructed drinking game.

If drinking is not your thing, try clapping - everybody should end up happier after this movie. Or try kissing. "The Andromeda Strain" is bad enough to start another baby boom or reignite stagnant marriages.

But before setting any ground rules for drinking, clapping or kissing, you should know that "The Andromeda Strain" from the brothers Scott differs from the 1971 Robert Wise film in that there appears to be an exponential increase in government conspiracies, underlying evil, a wink at environmentalism and an uptick in the be-careful-of-science-and-technology mantra.

As well there should be. In fact, 2008 seems like a particularly good time to make a movie about bioterror. But the execution here aims for high-end sophistication but ends up just being silly. Many of the events in this modern remake are similar to the original: A satellite crashes on Earth carrying "the Andromeda strain" of a very deadly, very smart virus. Though it seems a lot smarter this time around. So smart, in fact, that you will end up laughing at its seemingly endless permutations. Ultimately, it's not smart enough to know when to ratchet down the nonsense.

And this "Andromeda Strain" seems too in love with the idea of the space-time continuum, wormholes and a ceaseless love of geek speak.

Benjamin Bratt, Eric McCormack, Ricky Schroder, Andre Braugher and Daniel Dae Kim - among others - star in this ensemble space-and-science thriller, and each actor will have at least one embarrassing moment. Here's hoping Braugher, an outstanding actor, got a gigantic A&E paycheck.

We have a proble

Bratt plays Dr. Jeremy Stone, who heads up an all-volunteer team of doctors and scientists who are at the government's disposal should something go wrong.

Something goes wrong.

A satellite screams into a small Utah town called Piedmont. Two star-gazing lovers find it. They pick it up and bring it back into town. Not good. Then they have the fire chief crack it open. Really not good.

When government patrols show up to collect the satellite - your first inkling that something covert has been going on - they find it missing. They head into town and find nothing but death. Later, just like in the original movie, they'll find the town drunk and a fragile little baby still alive. By this time, the scientists, the president and everybody else know they've got a deadly bio accident on their hands, but they have no idea what it is or what it's capable of. ("Andromeda Strain" is all about far-fetched evolution, apparently.)

Anyway, Schroder, as a military man, suggests nuking all of Piedmont and eradicating the strain.

Now, hold on. Up until this point, roughly one hour and 50 minutes into "The Andromeda Strain," enough tension and mystery and updated tech coolness was in place to make the movie seem worth watching. This bio element was doing very bad things to people and that, in turn, was worth watching. Then comes the computer animation. In creeps the silliness - the last five minutes almost daring you, in its lameness, to return Tuesday.

But return you must.

Otherwise, you'll miss the full-on descent into pants-wetting, outrageous, sci-fi crackery that makes the final two hours fly by. You could miss so much, like Schroder's big revelation. Like the hot first lady. Or the pointless, we're-on-cable swearing. Or the predictability.

Drink, clap or kiss when ..

But, as promised, should you choose to make a drinking, clapping or kissing game out of "The Andromeda Strain," you should take action every time you see these things:

-- Someone says, "Computer," and the voice-keyed computers perform elaborate tasks.

-- A character spews geek speak. (Careful on those pours.)

-- One character barks out extremely complicated scientific theory only to be one-upped by someone countering with an extremely complicated medical theory. Pay attention!

-- Computer animation is used in ways that make you giggle when you shouldn't.

-- Color is used to illustrate the flow of the strain through fields or air.

-- Creeping color kills someone (no groping - kissing only!)

-- A series of miraculously fortunate events happen just in time to further the outbreak or the story (watch those hands - clap lightly).

-- The strain adapts within seconds of adapting some other way.

-- Bratt acts underwhelmed and calm when the situation calls for him to be insanely worried.

-- Every time Kim is racially slighted and/or adjusts his glasses.

-- Birds fall out of the sky, dead.

-- A buzzard appears.

-- Animals - not birds or buzzards - spread the strain in patently ridiculous ways.

-- The military takes a casualty not related to an armed enemy.

As a changeup to this game, stop drinking, clapping or kissing whenever the action stops for a faux-romantic moment.

Well, at that point, you're either going to be drunk, sore or pregnant - possibly all three. And there wasn't even one mention of "the thumb." You are not going believe "the thumb." In fact, here's two thumbs up for "the thumb."

But four thumbs down (it could happen in science - look it up) for this remake.


E-mail Tim Goodman at tgoodman@sfchronicle.com.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/26/DDES10TALN.DTL

This article appeared on page E - 1 of the San Francisco Chronicle

PaulKTF
05-26-2008, 03:14 PM
A whole bunch of reviews:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36873

John Moschella
05-27-2008, 07:27 AM
I thought it was terrible. Too much Tony and not enough Ridley.