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lil.fred
04-02-2003, 08:12 AM
If your CD recorder were a stand-alone home audio component, like mine is, what kind of CD-R blanks would you prefer to be buying? Thanks!

Sckott
04-02-2003, 08:21 AM
Mitsumi makes CDR(m) discs, don't they??

Joseph
04-02-2003, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by Sckott
Mitsumi makes CDR(m) discs, don't they??

Do you mean Mitsui Sckott?

Mitsui Cdr music discs (http://www.mitsuicdr.com/products/audio/index.html)

EC3970
04-02-2003, 08:37 AM
Taiyo Yuden by the 50 or 100 packs.

I avoid the music CD-Rs, my stand alone doesn't require them so why should I pay extra to RIAA?

MagicAlex
04-02-2003, 09:49 AM
I use Maxell 80 min. CD-R (music) made in Japan. They do well and I've never had a bad burn or defective disc. You can pick these up 50 to a spindle at Sam's Warehouse Club for $14.95. I wouldn't use the ones made in the US as they have a different dye composition.

Michael St. Clair
04-02-2003, 11:07 AM
Frankly, anything made in Japan is a good bet. I try to stick with Taiyo Yuden, but they don't seem to make any junk media in Japan. Taiwan and the US, junk media abound.

Read the fine print!

Dave
04-02-2003, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by MagicAlex
I use Maxell 80 min. CD-R (music) made in Japan. They do well and I've never had a bad burn or defective disc. You can pick these up 50 to a spindle at Sam's Warehouse Club for $14.95. I wouldn't use the ones made in the US as they have a different dye composition.
Same here. Never had a bad one and I love that blue surface colo[u]r, like that makes any sense.:)

Grant
04-02-2003, 01:47 PM
I use the computer method, but I do know that the Memorex and Fuju music-only spindles with the screw-top are Tayio Yuden! In fact, even though they are music-only, I still use them in my PC burner because they are Taiyo Yuden. I just get them on sale. Otherwise, they are too expensive!

JoelDF
04-02-2003, 04:13 PM
Maxell Pro's are Tayio Yudens. They may be repackaged music cd-r's, but they aren't labeled as such and probably don't have that "music" flag on them that most regular stand-alone cd-recorders need to read to work. Or maybe they do - don't know.

Joel

Grant
04-02-2003, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by JoelDF
Maxell Pro's are Tayio Yudens. They may be repackaged music cd-r's, but they aren't labeled as such and probably don't have that "music" flag on them that most regular stand-alone cd-recorders need to read to work. Or maybe they do - don't know.

Joel The Maxell pros are NOT music-only CD-Rs. THAT'S why they don't have the flag. They are Taiyo Yuden as well as the Fuji and some of the Memorex music-only blanks.

Now you know.

mudbone
04-03-2003, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by EC3970
Taiyo Yuden by the 50 or 100 packs.

I avoid the music CD-Rs, my stand alone doesn't require them so why should I pay extra to RIAA?

EC, what brand/model standalone do you have?

mud-

EC3970
04-03-2003, 11:36 AM
You can check our profiles for our toys

I bought a Tascam 700, but only because I couldn't find one of those purple recorders Steve uses.

I've been very happy with it.

http://www.tascam.com/products/cd_recorders/cdrw700/index.php

metalbob
04-03-2003, 12:50 PM
So despite the same brand (i.e. Maxell or Memorex), they will have different fine print? The only ones I ever really see are made in Taiwan, but then again I use a PC burner. I recently bought some Mitsui CDRs and the few that I have burned seem to be ok so far. They still don't play in my 8+ year old car player, but then again, it doesn't play CDRs well anyway.

Michael St. Clair
04-03-2003, 12:58 PM
Bob,

Maxell, Memorex, and Fuji PC CD-Rs that are 'made in Japan' are out there. Sometimes you have to try a little harder to find them. I can stop at five or six stores and only one or two of them may have the Japan-made media, even though the packaging is almost identical.

Mitsui costs 3x to 10x as much; Taiyo Yuden is great stuff, but you have to put a little effort into it.

OfficeMax has 100 Fujis for $7.99 after rebate this week. If they say 'Made in Japan', they are Taiyo Yuden.

metalbob
04-03-2003, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by Michael St. Clair
Bob,

Maxell, Memorex, and Fuji PC CD-Rs that are 'made in Japan' are out there. Sometimes you have to try a little harder to find them. I can stop at five or six stores and only one or two of them may have the Japan-made media, even though the packaging is almost identical.

Mitsui costs 3x to 10x as much; Taiyo Yuden is great stuff, but you have to put a little effort into it.

OfficeMax has 100 Fujis for $7.99 after rebate this week. If they say 'Made in Japan', they are Taiyo Yuden.

Hey Michael, long time no see! This CDR stuff is all so confusing. I thought I learned my lesson after buying crappy Office Max brand stuff back a few years ago, but I guess there is more to it than that...

I will just have to keep my eyes open in the future for that stuff. I have a bunch of Mitsui CDRS that should hold me over for a while though.

Jeffrey
04-03-2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Michael St. Clair

OfficeMax has 100 Fujis for $7.99 after rebate this week. If they say 'Made in Japan', they are Taiyo Yuden.

Hi,

:agree: Awesome price, product exactly as described! :agree:

-Jeffrey

P.S. Am i the only one here who still has a hard time buying Memorex because of the terrible memories i have about their cassette tape? ;)

metalbob
04-03-2003, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Jeffrey


Hi,

:agree: Awesome price, product exactly as described! :agree:

-Jeffrey

P.S. Am i the only one here who still has a hard time buying Memorex because of the terrible memories i have about their cassette tape? ;)

I agree here! Every time I see Memorex, I cringe! When I first got into Minidisc about 4 years or so ago, people INSISTED that Memorex MDs were horrible, but had no evidence to back it up. I have used them a bit and had no problems whatsoever. These are also the same people that insisted that music sounded different on different MDs (just like the CDR argument). We all know that probably is untrue. 1s and 0s are 1s and 0s.

stereo71
04-04-2003, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by Jeffrey


Hi,

:agree: Awesome price, product exactly as described! :agree:

-Jeffrey

P.S. Am i the only one here who still has a hard time buying Memorex because of the terrible memories i have about their cassette tape? ;)

No, you're not alone here. My recent experience with
Memorex media: In trying to find "audio" labeled CDRs
that would work reliably in two different Philips stand-
alone recorder models, only the older Memorex with
the shattering crystal goblet logo on the disc seemed
to work. The newer stuff (rated faster than 16x) wasn't
up to the task. I think also, the older type was made
in Japan, and the newer in Taiwan, but I can't be sure
now, as the wrappers are gone. Trouble is, around here
at least, Memorex seems to be the only label most
retailers will stock. Maybe it's more profitable for
them at the cutthroat pricing it seems to sell at. I've
had some luck finding Japanese Fuji, or TDK, sometimes
even Sony, all of which works fine.

Now, in the computer burner, a Plextor, anything seems
to work--even the el-cheapo Office Max stuff. But I
usually try to use better quality media for burns I want
to last. Is there any recent data concerning archival
qualities of currently available dye types? Seems the
Kodak gold ones are long gone...

Susan
04-04-2003, 08:54 PM
I stick with the Maxells now as I had a bad experience with others. I bought a Phillips CDR 785 cd recorder for Christmas of '2000 with a big fat stack of 100 TDK music discs. I can't tell you how disappointed he was that the TDK's didn't work in the Philips decks...and he couldn't play with his new toy.

Is it written anywhere what discs will work with what decks?? Can I assume any of those three japanese brands will work?
Susan

Grant
04-04-2003, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by Susan
I stick with the Maxells now as I had a bad experience with others. I bought a Phillips CDR 785 cd recorder for Christmas of '2000 with a big fat stack of 100 TDK music discs. I can't tell you how disappointed he was that the TDK's didn't work in the Philips decks...and he couldn't play with his new toy.

Is it written anywhere what discs will work with what decks?? Can I assume any of those three japanese brands will work?
Susan

I don't know about the eccentricities of the consumer standalone burners, but even with the computer burners, I have problems with TDK blanks, newer and older, recorded ones. I won't touch them.

But I never have problems with Memorex of any type.

BTW, welcome to the forum! Post a lot and have fun!:thumbsup:

metalbob
04-04-2003, 11:06 PM
My latest problems have been with my PC (I think). Sometimes, when I put a fresh, new disc in, it prompts me to put a blank disc in. Other times, I get buffer under run problems before the disc even starts. I am not wasting too many CDs, but it is just annoying!

Grant
04-05-2003, 09:07 AM
Metalbob, it could be your burner is going south. What burner are you using, how old is it, and are you doing other things while burning? Do you have unneeded things running in the background? Is it rejecting only certain blanks?

metalbob
04-05-2003, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by Grant
Metalbob, it could be your burner is going south. What burner are you using, how old is it, and are you doing other things while burning? Do you have unneeded things running in the background? Is it rejecting only certain blanks?

I think my burner might be hitting the skids. I have gotten to the point where I am doing NOTHING and even tried to shut a few things down so it doesn't eat up memory. It seems to burn OK at 2x or 4x, but I seem to have trouble when I burn at 1x.

It is an HP burner that is probably 4+ years old at this point. Probably time for a new one. But, I have been considering buying a Mac, so I might hold off and get a Mac instead of sinking more money into this one.

MagicAlex
04-05-2003, 01:05 PM
I had a HP CD-Writer Plus 9300 series that did the same thing. I reinstalled WinXP and somehow my problems cleared up. Driver corruption or something I guess. Worth a try!

Grant
04-05-2003, 03:12 PM
The Hp 7100 and 7200 series had bad Philips drives. If your burner is one of these, time for a new burner! If it burns at 4x it is likely an 8100, which is a Sony drive, and some of those were problematic.