View Full Version : Does anybody else 'backup' their SACD's?
Cornholio
10-26-2007, 07:22 PM
Anybody else do this? I've been "backing up" my SACD's the past couple days just in case something were to happen to them. Obviously you can't do a direct copy but I've been feeding the analog output of my player into my computer's soundcard and saving as 24bit-96khz FLAC files. If something ever happened to the original discs at least I have some sort of a hi-res backup to listen to.
colinu
10-26-2007, 07:26 PM
I have started, especially my multichannel discs. Sooner or later, either the discs or the player will fail, at least this way I might be able to recreate the content.
dmckean
10-26-2007, 10:03 PM
You CAN backup the 2 channel layer digitally if you use a HDMI to DVI + Audio breakout box.
If something ever happened to the original discs at least I have some sort of a hi-res backup to listen to.
:sigh:
Really know how to worry a guy, don't ya?
Maybe I should lock up my DCCs and rare discs....
Cornholio
10-26-2007, 11:00 PM
Maybe I should lock up my DCCs and rare discs....Wouldn't hurt to rip them to your HD and/or burn cdr's just in case.
Craig
10-26-2007, 11:01 PM
:sigh:
Really know how to worry a guy, don't ya?
Maybe I should lock up my DCCs and rare discs....
Better to store them offsite, Gary. :agree:
I'll PM you with a secure location. :thumbsup:
alanb
10-26-2007, 11:53 PM
sometimes i "back it up" and play it again....:sigh:
Metoo
10-27-2007, 07:50 AM
I have been backing up my SACDs in stereo for some time now. I usually play my backups not the originals.
Metralla
10-27-2007, 10:00 AM
Anybody else do this? I've been "backing up" my SACD's the past couple days just in case something were to happen to them.
Would I be correct to assume you have made digital copies of ALL your CDs and are now starting on your SACDs?
listentothemusic
10-27-2007, 10:39 AM
Wouldn't hurt to rip them to your HD and/or burn cdr's just in case.
I've been doing this for years...
Cornholio
10-27-2007, 10:44 AM
Would I be correct to assume you have made digital copies of ALL your CDs and are now starting on your SACDs?No, I've got a long way to go with the cd's. :D
Mike the Fish
10-27-2007, 10:57 AM
At the risk of starting something, if you are backing them up using analogue playback you are losing something - apart from using the analogue chain. Your copied sample points are most likely not going to be at the same point of the recorded wave as those being played. There's probably some term for it, and I may not notice the difference if I heard such a thing. However - it is there!
Metralla
10-27-2007, 11:22 AM
At the risk of starting something, if you are backing them up using analogue playback you are losing something ...
No question.
Cornholio
10-27-2007, 11:27 AM
At the risk of starting something, if you are backing them up using analogue playback you are losing something - apart from using the analogue chain. Your copied sample points are most likely not going to be at the same point of the recorded wave as those being played. There's probably some term for it, and I may not notice the difference if I heard such a thing. However - it is there!
I never said it was a perfect copy and I think I made that perfectly clear in my original post. The point is that if something were to happen to the original disc at least I still have a very good hi-res copy that's far better than cd. I'd much rather listen to a 96/24 copy of my Couldn't Stand The Weather SACD than my gold cd version any day. The same applies for all my other SACD's
Claude
10-27-2007, 12:36 PM
I don't backup CDs, or SACD layers or LPs. I haven't ruined or lost a single disc in the past 20 years, so it's not worth it. (I backup PC data regularly, because hard drive failures are a much higher risk)
The biggest risk would be a fire that destroys my whole music collection. To avoid that loss, I would have to keep the backups outside of the house.
I don't think a burglar would touch my CDs or LPs, unless he is a jazz connoisseur who knows how much they are worth ...
Steve G
10-27-2007, 01:05 PM
I have been backing up my SACDs in stereo for some time now. I usually play my backups not the originals.
so......er......
backing them up onto what?
can you do DSD at home?
if not, and you prefer to play the backups, why are you buying SACDs in the first place?
this is the ODDEST thread in a while!
Matt Levy
10-27-2007, 01:07 PM
I don't think a burglar would touch my CDs or LPs, unless he is a jazz connoisseur who knows how much they are worth ...
Don't bet on it. They're never that sophisticated.
Metoo
10-27-2007, 03:00 PM
so......er......
backing them up onto what?
can you do DSD at home?
if not, and you prefer to play the backups, why are you buying SACDs in the first place?
this is the ODDEST thread in a while!
No, I cannot do DSD at home, but whatever I record (correctly) out of my player's analog outputs should sound exactly like what I hear when I play SACDs on it. After all, when I do what I am hearing is exactly the analog signal.
My rig is set up to play the surround part of an SACD. I do not have one of those remote controls that changes from surround sound to stereo and back with SACDs. I can put two SACDs back to back on a single-layer DVD. When I want to listen to the music in stereo because I am not sitting on the sweet spot and I want to use my DVD player instead of my universal one I just put my stereo copy on the DVD and listen to a great-sounding (albeit not exact) two-album audio program without having to get up and futz with my setup or my SACDs.
With these backups I can also burn a CD of any of my single-layer SACDs for use in my car. And I can also play my 96/24 backups through my amp's digital input.
Metoo
10-27-2007, 03:03 PM
At the risk of starting something, if you are backing them up using analogue playback you are losing something - apart from using the analogue chain. Your copied sample points are most likely not going to be at the same point of the recorded wave as those being played. There's probably some term for it, and I may not notice the difference if I heard such a thing. However - it is there!I am losing something because there is a transformation of digital data to analog, but I'm quite closer to the real thing than I've been before since I record at 192/24 and then downsample to 96/24 because above 45 kHz SACDs have more noise than audio signal. IME, only some SACD backups show any positive difference (to their 96/24 equivalents) when left at 192/24.
bru87tr
10-27-2007, 03:05 PM
Better to store them offsite, Gary. :agree:
I'll PM you with a secure location. :thumbsup:
:laugh:
Steve G
10-27-2007, 04:27 PM
those are actually some good answers Metoo
I get it now...
Metoo
10-27-2007, 04:38 PM
:)
EddieVanHalen
10-27-2007, 05:51 PM
I have the right way to get back-up copies of my SACDs. I buy an SACD disc, listen to it and if I really like it I buy a second copy which I keep at my sister's flat, conveniently packed. I also keep at my sister's an old Sony SACD player just in case.
Easy, convenient and inexpensive and I always make sure I get the real thing.
cortez
10-27-2007, 06:14 PM
:sigh:
Really know how to worry a guy, don't ya?
Maybe I should lock up my DCCs and rare discs....
I am having a friend build me a cd rack that will be enclosed. I am having him put lock fixtures on the front doors. I what a enclosed unit because it looks cleaner and too protect from dust better, might as well put a lock on the doors to keep away roommates, family, thieves or anybody else that might think my cd collection is their personal jukebox. On the other hand a thief will probably think it is a safe or something with a crap load of money and jewels in it and will more likely try to break it open. I might as well get a full blown safe in the basement, the ones that weigh a few tons and have nuclear proof locks :laugh:
gloomrider
10-27-2007, 07:04 PM
You CAN backup the 2 channel layer digitally if you use a HDMI to DVI + Audio breakout box.
A "breakout box" will not defeat HDCP. At least none that I'm aware of.
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