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doubleaapn
07-27-2007, 12:42 PM
FYI, I just saw this:

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/shows/stax/

This looks like a brand new documentary - i'll surely be tuning in!

Aaron

scottpaul_iu
07-27-2007, 01:38 PM
Cool. Thanks for the intel.

vince
07-27-2007, 01:53 PM
Neat.

Grant
07-27-2007, 02:07 PM
I missed the Motown one, but i'll try to remember this one!

Wollensack
07-28-2007, 11:18 AM
I cannot wait to see this!! What a story!

audiofool
07-30-2007, 02:43 PM
Pah!

It's not scheduled for our PBS station out of Erie.

Marty Milton
07-31-2007, 09:00 AM
I noticed that it won't be available on the HD PBS channel. I will have to remember to watch it on our SD PBS channel.

d.r.cook
08-01-2007, 07:48 AM
Tonite's the nite!
(below, from today's NY Times, a review of tonite's Stax PBS doc.)



http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/01/arts/television/01resp.html?_r=1&oref=slogin




Cutting a Tumultuous Era’s Soul Soundtrack

By GINIA BELLAFANTE
Published: August 1, 2007
One day in the early 1960s, a young man who worked as driver and baggage handler for a group called Johnny Jenkins and the Pinetoppers lugged its instruments into the studios of Stax Records in Memphis, where the band was scheduled for a recording session. As it happened, the young man sang too — in a husky tenor — and spent his idle hours that afternoon begging people to hand him a mike.

By the end of the day, no one had given him a shot, and the label’s founder Jim Stewart felt guilty. Mr. Stewart was simply that kind of guy. The task of hearing out the eager aspirant fell begrudgingly to Steve Cropper, guitarist for Booker T. & the MGs, one of the label’s popular bands. As Mr. Cropper tells it in “Respect Yourself: The Stax Records Story,” a “Great Performances” documentary tonight on PBS: “He started singing ‘These Arms of Mine,’ and I know my hair lifted out about three inches. I couldn’t believe this guy’s voice.” It belonged to Otis Redding.

Redding’s death in a plane crash in Wisconsin in 1967 — he was just 26 — was one of the many setbacks the Stax label would endure. Ill-conceived distribution deals and the ouster of Clive Davis at CBS, with whom Stax had a fortunate relationship, were others. By the mid-1970s, the label was in bankruptcy and fated for an undeserved obscurity among the wider world beyond the fans of R&B.

Stax, eventually owned by the marketing innovator Al Bell, gave birth to the Memphis Sound — a funkier, less refined analogue to Detroit soul — and some of the most influential recordings of the 1960s: “Soul Man,” “Respect” (written by Redding), “(Sittin’ on) the Dock of the Bay” and “Who’s Making Love?,” among many others. It has not, however, shared Motown Records’ sustained celebrity. That this constitutes one of the crimes of American music history is an argument “Respect Yourself” makes by the pure virtue of its narrative.

The label came to life in the late 1950s when Mr. Stewart, a white bank teller, and his sister Estelle Axton took over an old movie theater in a Memphis neighborhood that was becoming predominantly African-American, with plans to use it as a studio. Mr. Stewart’s interest in music initially did not extend beyond country. But, as he points out here, “The wind blew in, and we were smart enough not to fight it.”

The wind came in the form of R&B, and Stax helped create a hurricane. Stax completely ignored segregation in a city where the public pool chose to shut down rather than abide by an order to allow blacks and whites to swim together. Booker T. & the MGs was a marriage between Booker T. Jones and other black musicians and the white members of the Mar-Keys. They met and began talking at the Stax record shop, run by Ms. Axton, which operated next to the studio in what had been the movie theater’s concession stand.

With the exceptions of people like Otis Redding and Isaac Hayes, many of the Stax artists remain unfamiliar to the public now, a problem that cannot be explained solely by the label’s twisted financial fortunes. While Carla Thomas and her father, Rufus, for instance, are fairly well known, many Americans would be hard pressed to cite a single one of their songs or identify either of them in an MTV lineup.

There is a poignant story to be told in the absence of these artists from our collective cultural memory and, regrettably, “Respect Yourself” leaves it aside. Still, this documentary provides an essential account of auteurism in one of American music’s greatest eras.

reechie
08-01-2007, 09:53 AM
I'll be watching tonight, but for those who can't tune in, it looks like this is set for a September DVD release:
http://www.amazon.com/Respect-Yourself-Stax-Records-Story/dp/B000TJMOTC/

Matt W.
08-01-2007, 04:25 PM
Reechie, it appears that your link does not work. I'm getting a 404 error. I think the link below is the proper one, correct me if I'm wrong:

http://www.amazon.com/Wattstax-Respect-Yourself-Record-Story/dp/B000SNUNY2/ref=sr_1_4/002-8218040-4043219?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1186010682&sr=8-4

JuanTCB
08-01-2007, 07:15 PM
This is a GREAT documentary so far!

Casino
08-01-2007, 08:37 PM
Well done.

Chris R
08-01-2007, 10:35 PM
Thanks for the heads up. I missed both feeds this evening. However I see on the KCTS Seattle web site, that they are re-running the doc. on Monday, August 6 at 2.30am PDT.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/broadcast/schedule_airdates.html?title_id=151&display_format=ep_description&display_feed=719&display_date=2007-08-06&display_time=02:30&feeds=&station=KCTS&zipcode=&transport=&provider=&channelsuppress=f

On the East feed that I receive, WNED, Buffalo, they are re-running the special on Sunday, August 5, at 2.30am EDT.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/broadcast/schedule_airdates.html?title_id=151&display_format=ep_description&display_feed=2273&display_date=2007-08-05&display_time=02:30&feeds=&station=WNED&zipcode=&transport=&provider=&channelsuppress=f

I'll be recording one of those feeds.

reechie
08-02-2007, 05:17 AM
Reechie, it appears that your link does not work. I'm getting a 404 error. I think the link below is the proper one, correct me if I'm wrong:

http://www.amazon.com/Wattstax-Respect-Yourself-Record-Story/dp/B000SNUNY2/ref=sr_1_4/002-8218040-4043219?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1186010682&sr=8-4
No, the listing I saw yesterday seems to have been taken down totally...the one you've got is for a 3 CD live set. I wonder if PBS asked them to remove it. Surely though, it'll be out on DVD in no time.

I did find this listing though. Just as exciting:
http://www.amazon.com/Stax-Volt-Revue-Live-Norway/dp/B000UB054U/ref=sr_1_6/104-5583107-5184735?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1186056830&sr=1-6

charlie W
08-02-2007, 05:39 AM
There was a DVD offer at the end of the program and its release date was mid-September.

Clarkophile
08-02-2007, 06:36 AM
I didn't know about this beforehand, I just happened to catch the last half hour or so. The Sam and Dave/Otis Redding bits I caught were thrilling. Scenes of Stax folks, Duck and Cropper et al, on the tour bus in Europe, various stage clips...the DVD is a must-have, I say.

While I think that Otis deserves a documentary all his own, it was revelatory for me to see how his death affected the entire Stax organization, as if it were a omen or something.

The Panda
08-02-2007, 07:25 AM
love the footage of Isaac rehearsing Shaft in the studio for the late Gordon Parks.

I'm glad they brought up the Atlantic rip off. It's a tale that is often ignored when people deify Wexler and Ahmet. I give them credit for pushing on after all those horrible events.

I thought the bit about the security men who appeared to have mental issues needed to be explored a little further. It sounded like they played a role in the decline of the label as well.

Clarkophile
08-02-2007, 07:27 AM
love the footage of Isaac rehearsing Shaft in the studio for the late Gordon Parks.


Oh, man, I wish I had seen that part!

Mark H
08-02-2007, 09:09 AM
Great show, a ton of live footage I never saw before. Otis was "the man". Great stuff. Cool looking at the old consoles also.

pdenny
08-02-2007, 09:39 AM
Doesn't seem to be showing anywhere in LA at least according to my Dish Network schedule. :realmad:

8tracks
08-02-2007, 10:56 PM
While I think that Otis deserves a documentary all his own, it was revelatory for me to see how his death affected the entire Stax organization, as if it were a omen or something.
I always assumed Otis' death (December 10, 1967) and Atlantic's swiping of the catalog (recordings up through May, 1968) together forced Stax to start over. I never realized that the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. (April 4, 1968... as we all know from U2's Pride), including the Lorraine Motel (current home of the Civil Rights Museum), also played a pivotal role in the Stax story.

I was surprised at the amount of money flowing through the label and the lavish spending taking place by many at Stax during the early 70s. I guess I always felt the label's heyday was during the Atlantic years and that after Booker T & the MGs left in 1971 the label was in decline both commercially and artistically, only producing a handful of hits, including Shaft and a few by The Staples Singers.

Something else I didn't know: Estelle Axton produced Rick Dees' Disco Duck? (Maybe because the 45 stated it was produced by Bobby Manuel.)

Surprising Omissions: Spotlighting Eddie Floyd's Knock on Wood and that a few of Wilson Picket's early hits were recorded at Stax and co-written by Steve Cropper (although like Sam & Dave, Pickett was signed to Atlantic.)

Fantasy I knew would not come true: A mention of Big Star's first two albums.

Story I think would make a great movie: The life and bizarre death of Al Jackson, Jr.

Now sitting at the top of my Netflix queue: Wattstax

zappa
08-03-2007, 02:26 AM
i'm buying this when it comes out, excellent stuff! great book, same subject: soulsville usa by rob bowman! dig!!!!!! "STAX OF WAX!!!"

pdenny
08-03-2007, 08:15 AM
So much fantastic Stax music went more or less unheard. Just listened to the first two Margie Joseph albums from 70 and 71...she shoulda been a superstar! :shake:

8tracks
08-03-2007, 08:33 AM
So much fantastic Stax music went more or less unheard. Just listened to the first two Margie Joseph albums from 70 and 71...she shoulda been a superstar! :shake:
I don't know how "Sweeter Tomorrow" failed to chart... especially on Billboard's Hot Soul Singles survey.

Jeff H.
08-03-2007, 05:00 PM
Something else I didn't know: Estelle Axton produced Rick Dees' Disco Duck? (Maybe because the 45 stated it was produced by Bobby Manuel.)



I'm not sure if she actually produced the record. "Disco Duck" was originally released on Estelle Axton's Fretone Records, before RSO Records bought the master and released it nationally. It had been a regional hit in areas around Memphis, but wasn't played on any stations in the city. Since Rick Dees was a DJ at WMPS, he was actually forbidden by station management to play the record or even talk about it. He was actually fired from the station for doing the latter. None of the other stations in town would play the record for fear of helping promote their competition. It didn't hurt it though. Once the song was picked up by RSO, it ended up selling almost 3 million copies.