View Full Version : EAC is there anything better for ripping?
wildjim
02-10-2003, 02:27 AM
I use EAC(secure mode) to rip and Golden Hawk CDRWIN to burn and to my ears it's a perfect rip. I use this setup on SACD Hybrid DISCs to play in the car and they seem perfect.
Andrew
02-10-2003, 05:55 AM
A great program, and you can't beat the price! :thumbsup:
-=Rudy=-
02-10-2003, 05:59 AM
I've had a lot of problems with EAC lately, where it reads with glitches or won't read at all. (Too many settings to mess around with and no time to bother with it. :) ) Now that CD Architect and SoundForge have ripping built in, I've gotten rid of EAC. But I also don't rip to MP3 files very much, mainly to WAV files for editing...which makes an external program an extra step.
I have used a program called CDex in the past. It worked well, is relatively easy to use, but it is s-l-o-w, especially when converting to MP3.
wildjim
02-10-2003, 06:08 AM
I don't rip to MP3 much either. I rip the entire CD/SACD with EAC to a image/cue sheet file then burn it with CDRWIN. This method seems to be flawless for me as it will produce an exact duplicate(per Government Standards). I use a Plextor drive. I haven't found another program that can read as accurately as EAC in the Secure Mode.
Cafe Jeff
02-10-2003, 07:14 AM
Hi,
I love EAC too.
Does it make an exact copy when you choose image and cue sheet. Not just bit for bit of the individual wave files, but bit for bit for the disk including in between bits, copyright, cd text, etc? Jeff
I use the older version of EAC that can only do ripping, no burning; I tried later versions w/ burning, but they would rip much slower for some reason. I did do the calibration with the test CDs from the guy's list, though I never copy from copy.
I use Nero for burning.
-=Rudy=-
02-10-2003, 07:26 AM
I think my pet peeve was finding 'ticks' in the output of some files I'd extracted using EAC, where other programs I use do it cleanly. I recall when I DID have EAC working correctly on an older system of mine, it did take some tweaking to get it to work correctly...seems that older version of EAC always worked better for me. YMMV. ;)
Sckott
02-10-2003, 07:50 AM
Note: One thing Nero (and EZCD) can do that EAC can't is accurately preserve higher and lower case charactors using CD TEXT. That may change soon. When using EAC, using text to burn cds, you only get higher case lettering. No biggie.
lukpac
02-10-2003, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Sckott
Note: One thing Nero (and EZCD) can do that EAC can't is accurately preserve higher and lower case charactors using CD TEXT. That may change soon. When using EAC, using text to burn cds, you only get higher case lettering. No biggie.
I'm not sure about *reading* CD TEXT information, as I've never really tried that/gotten it to work, but EAC can certainly *write* lowercase CD TEXT. You just have to uncheck the "Convert to Uppercase" checkbox.
I write in mixed case all the time in EAC and it works fine.
Sckott
02-10-2003, 08:47 AM
Ah, my bad then.
JoelDF
02-10-2003, 10:21 AM
I've had no problems with EAC.
My greatest success was with the cd of Chuck Mangione's Feels So Good. I'm not sure what was happening to that cd, but it began, for lack of a better term, disintegrating on me. When it was new, it played great. Then, about 5 years ago, it began causing problems on some players - I'd get an occasional pop/click sound during certain long horn note passages. I had an old Plextor 4x cd-rom drive in an old computer and that drive refused to accept the CD - the only CD that the drive would just spit back out after I tried inserting the caddy. About a year ago, the pop/click problem got worse - almost constant throughout the disc. It would do this on more recent cd-rom drives and several different stand-alone players, old and new.
Physically, the disc looked fine. No discoloration, no sudden appearance of holes or anything like that, no scratches on the reading surface at all.
I finally find that EAC program and try it out on that disc. The computer I have now has a drive that at least can read the disc, but it can't play it without constant pops and clicks. I loaded up EAC and extracted the whole disc.
Constant read and sync errors.
6 hours later, it finishes.
I go through the list of possible glitches and listen to the results.
I hear no pops or clicks anywhere.
Burned that puppy to a new CD-r and it plays great all the way through now.
The only problem I have now is that I pulled out the old LP and gave it a spin. I like the sound of the LP slightly better than the CD so now I'm in the process of recording that to my computer and doing a pop/click cleanup on that to burn to a new cd-r...
oh well...
Joel
Gardo
02-10-2003, 01:49 PM
I've just started using EAC consistently and so far have no problems to report. It is a slower ripper than other programs, but that's because I don't rip in burst mode. After going through the "evaluate read properties" routine for my CD writer, I use the recommended settings for ripping: no cache, C2 correction, accurate stream. Instead of ripping at 30x, it rips at about 10x.
Before now I've been using a little program called CDDAE with success, and it rips very fast indeed. If I select "verify," it does an immediate test of the file after ripping, with a readout of errors detected. Has anyone else used this program? Any cautions to pass along?
Am I the only one who's never had a problem using the CD Copy part of Easy CD Creator? It couldn't be easier, and it sounds perfect to my ears. Is there something I should be worried about?
Ray
Michael
02-10-2003, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by RDK
Am I the only one who's never had a problem using the CD Copy part of Easy CD Creator? It couldn't be easier, and it sounds perfect to my ears. Is there something I should be worried about?
Ray
CD Creator 4 is wondeful...I love it:love:
Paul C.
02-10-2003, 03:31 PM
I've found Nero pretty good for rips, with my Yamaha F1 burner - no errors reported. I've also used CloneCD quite a bit, and never had a problem with copying a disc.
I'm still not sure what is the best way of checking for errors after doing a rip - is there software to allow you to test a rip against the original?
Gardo
02-10-2003, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by Paul Christie
I've found Nero pretty good for rips, with my Yamaha F1 burner - no errors reported. I've also used CloneCD quite a bit, and never had a problem with copying a disc.
I'm still not sure what is the best way of checking for errors after doing a rip - is there software to allow you to test a rip against the original?
CDDAE has a "verify" function that does this, I believe. EAC also has a "test and copy" that will check that the rip can be done successfully; after the rip, it'll tell you if there were any read errors.
mne563
02-10-2003, 06:54 PM
I use a program called Clone CD by Elaborate Bytes, works great.
Web Site Here. (
http://www.elby.ch/english/products/clone_cd/index.html)
Michael Nelson
Grant
02-10-2003, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by RDK
Am I the only one who's never had a problem using the CD Copy part of Easy CD Creator? It couldn't be easier, and it sounds perfect to my ears. Is there something I should be worried about?
Ray
I've used version 3x, 4x, and 5x without any problems. It's also very easy to rename the tracks if desired. Only problem is, I do get a slightly higher number of glitches when I do use it. I defrag my music drive and turn off all apps. I have all drives DMA enabled.
But then I have six or seven programs and dozens of ways to rip CDs...
Sckott
02-10-2003, 07:29 PM
Luke, in case you're monitoring this thread, I've found no setting you mention in the latest version. According to the EAC forum, this feature is not yet implemented. Where do you find the checkmark you mentioned?
Craig
02-10-2003, 07:34 PM
I use EAC to extract and EAC or CDRWIN to burn. What sold me on EAC (and got me to send in a postcard) was early on when I was trying to copy a CD and EAC couldn't handle it. EAC kept trying and trying so I gave up and tried using the copy of EZ CD Creator that came with my CDR burner. It was version 3.x and had no problem at all copying the CD. I got curious and checked the CD a little closer and saw a fingerprint near the outer edge. I wiped off the fingerprint and EAC worked like a charm. This convinced me EAC was working and maybe EZ CD Creator was skipping over the errors without letting me know. I felt EAC was living up to it's name and have used it exclusively for extracting since.
Craig
02-10-2003, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Sckott
Luke, in case you're monitoring this thread, I've found no setting you mention in the latest version. According to the EAC forum, this feature is not yet implemented. Where do you find the checkmark you mentioned?
I'm using v0.9 beta 3 - 6 MAR 2002. In that version it was under EAC >EAC OPTIONS>WRITE and there's a checkbox "CD-TEXT Options - upper all characters on writing".
I see there is one more newer version, I'll have to D/L it and see what's happening....
Sckott
02-10-2003, 07:41 PM
Duh. TYVM.
JoelDF
02-10-2003, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by Craig
I'm using v0.9 beta 3 - 6 MAR 2002. In that version it was under EAC >EAC OPTIONS>WRITE and there's a checkbox "CD-TEXT Options - upper all characters on writing".
I see there is one more newer version, I'll have to D/L it and see what's happening....
I've got v0.9 beta 4 22 May 2002, and the same options are still there.
Joel
lukpac
02-11-2003, 05:47 AM
What Craig said...;)
BradOlson
02-11-2003, 07:07 AM
MusicMatch Jukebox is a great ripper as well.
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