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Chris M
01-06-2002, 01:15 AM
Does anyone know w/ happened here? It's espically bad on See Me, Feel Me.

Chris

John Buchanan
01-06-2002, 01:42 AM
It would be nice to know - a fly in the ointment.

czeskleba
01-06-2002, 09:02 AM
The story I've heard is that somehow Jon Astley inadvertently added the clicks to the digital master prepared by Bob Ludwig. I don't know the exact details, though.

lukpac
01-06-2002, 07:24 PM
I guess:

a) the clicks were not on the multitrack.
b) the clicks were not on the new mixdown tape
c) the clicks were on the tape given to Bob Ludwig (he did not introduce them)

Chris M
01-06-2002, 07:27 PM
Weird. I can't beleive that made it past quality control. Luke, in your opinion is the Polydor Quadrophenia remix any better/different than the MCA version?

Chris

lukpac
01-06-2002, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Chris M:
Weird. I can't beleive that made it past quality control. Luke, in your opinion is the Polydor Quadrophenia remix any better/different than the MCA version?

Bob Ludwig told me the clicks were on the tape he got. He made a note of them, but was not instructed to remove them.

I heard the Polydor Quad once long ago. At the time I didn't feel it was *that* different, and didn't like it as much as the MCA. That was a LONG time ago, though. I need to listen again.

Some say the Japanese pressing is the best.

czeskleba
01-06-2002, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by Chris M:
Weird. I can't beleive that made it past quality control.
Chris

When it comes to the remastered Who CDs, there really is no "quality control." Jon Astley really does deserve the awful reputation he has.

Chris M
01-07-2002, 12:13 AM
Agreed, but i think Astley only *remastered* Odds and Sods, the BBC sessions, and the Deluxe Live at Leeds set. He produced the other reissues but didn't actually remaster them. I'm sure Luke knows more about this! Bob Ludwig mastered the Tommy remix, Tim Young mastered the '95 Leeds remix, the Quad remix was mastered by George Jones and Bob Ludwig and Andy Macpherson mastered the rest (I think.) IMO the *mastering* of the Tommy remix, '95 Leeds remix and Sell Out remix isn't that bad. One may not like the *remixing* but I don't think the mastering is too bad. Of course, the ones Astley mastered himself (Odds and Sods, 2CD Leeds and BBC sessions) are CRAP. A Quick one was a big dissapointment too. I mean they used FAKE stereo for Whisky Man???? What Bastards :mad:

Chris

czeskleba
01-07-2002, 02:30 AM
Originally posted by Chris M:
Agreed, but i think Astley only *remastered* Odds and Sods, the BBC sessions, and the Deluxe Live at Leeds set. He produced the other reissues but didn't actually remaster them. Chris

This is true, but as "reissue producer" he was directly responsible for the lack of quality control on all the reissues. The frequent use of incorrect tapes, the digital clicks on Tommy, the omission of the Ready Steady Who version of "Circles" from the Quick One reissue... these are all Astley mistakes.

btomarra
01-07-2002, 10:47 AM
Agreed! Not to mention the incorrect version of Young Man Blues, the omitted lead guitar on Under My Thumb on Odds & Sods. He's like the anti-Steve. Steve does his research, Jon sloppily grabs wrong tapes! :(

[ January 07, 2002: Message edited by: Brian O'Marra ]